Victorypoker leaving Cake network

Victory Poker will be leaving the Cake Network and joining The Cereus Poker Network in a deal that is nearing completion and will be announced formally soon.

above copied from raketherake..

Cereus network runs AP and UB,and soon Victory poker.To me,it looks like the UB scam that happened several years ago are behind them hopefully.It seems that good freerolls and even decent low buyins are getting harder to find lately.
I hope since Cake was bought by pokerlistings recently and Cereus now allowing skins to be sold,that us players will benefit at the tables,when all the dust settles.

Sounds like Victory is moving to the Dark Side! Maybe it will end up being a good thing for Victory, but I'm skeptical. It would definitely help Cereus.

Not even close. A lot of players have still never received full payment for money that was stolen. It is still unclear who all of the cheaters were and even if some in the supposedly new ownership had connections to the previous owners. Russ Hamilton is still running around with his stolen money.

If you want some knowledge on the subject go to 2 plus 2 to start but don't stop there. There are several blogs devoted to the issue.

Within the last week Joe Sebok (UB pro/ Barry Greenstein's stepson) got caught sending a threatening message to a UB critic and has been on 2+2 trying to defend himself and the company without much success.

I don't want to post links to the 2p2 without permission but go look for yourself. Even Tom Dwan posted in one thread criticizing Sebok.

I would not put a dime on any site associated with UB/Absolute Poker. They are hoping that everyone will forget about it and it will die. It was robbery, the biggest poker scandal ever and it damaged the game. Don't forgive and don't forget.

I do know its true, that nobody was ever put in jail over the scandal,and the main guy suspected never paid any money back....
I was refering to cheating still happening now,I have not heard of any cheating happening since the scandal,time will tell.
Plus Im a forgiving person myself,but it wasnt my money that was cheated either,and at the levels I play,it wont be a problem soon.

About the guy who stole the money at UB,I wonder why the IRS hasnt went after the guy for at least not paying taxes on this money he cheated from UB.This is how they got Capone!

So as long as they don't steal from you than you are fine with associating with a known thief? Whatever works for you. Aside from one of their lead pros (Joe Sebok) threatening a UB critic they are currently having a (by their standards mild)scandal involving their casino software. Here are some links.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...vg-zoo-898568/

http://www.nsdpoker.com/2011/03/ap_keno/

http://haleyspokerblog.blogspot.com/

But hey, you don't play the casino so if they are cheating those people that's fine for you I guess. Yeah, they probably won't cheat you in the micros so what the heck give your money to them.

Actually,the Victory Poker CEO stated on his FB page that they are not moving to cereus.

I wasn't around online poker in 2007, when the bulk of the AP/UB scandals went down, but have since read up on them extensively, and am completely sickened by the shady shit they pulled off and continue to pull off, and the extent to which they've managed to get away with everything. I've been following the Victory Poker thread on 2+2 in which the CEO of VP has been answering questions from 2+2ers who try to make him see that associating with AP/UB is a terrible idea. He'll gain a lot respect from me if he comes around and ultimately backtracks from his initial plan of joining Cereus (not that my respect is worth much, since I'm just a small time microfish).

I'm not sure if we're reading the same page, but the message I saw on the Victory Poker FB site is--"There are rumors on a ton of websites today that Victory Poker is moving to the Cereus... They host the 3rd largest site in America so we would be excited to move there, but it's still rumors at this point."--not an explicit statement of them not moving to Cereus, but that, while it isn't a certainty yet, it's definitely something they're considering.

ii thought it woulda been a good move, ub could use some fresh blood