ultimate bet is underdog friendly

i was playing at a $1-$2 nolimit table bought in for $100 it took about an hr to lose it all and this is how i lost it im in the big blind with ace jack offsuit i have $79 left 1st to act folds next guy calls next guy raises to $5 the button calls i call the other guy folds.flop comes ace jack nine 3 suits,i bet out for $10 the raiser calls and the button folds.turn is an 8 i bet $15 the raiser takes it to $75 which puts me allin i think about it and decide to call.7 hits the river the guy has pp 10s wins with jack high straight.so now im on tilt just watchin at the table and the same guy sucks out on 5 or 6 more hands where he hit a 3 or 4 outer on the river to win and in every hand he was bettin big with a draw. so he either knew what was coming or the program that ultimate bet is running is set up for the underdog to win.now i doubt that he knew what was coming but i think he knows the program is set to let the underdog wincause in hands where he was leading he never bet big enough to get anyone allin and he got sucked out on as well but if he was behind the whole way he was betting like he had the nuts and then would hit on the river??????what do you think?

If you really believe that nonesense, then why don't you start playing like a donk yourself (assuming that you don't already)? Perhaps you'll win, in which case you will have 'proved' your point.

i play at Ultimatebet a lot and i can assure you that the underdog only wins if i'm in the hand with the lead .thats not to say that i haven't sucked out and won because it did happen ,once i think

I can't take this crap anymore, I think I need to leave cardschat.

Every other post here has turned into ," Boo-hoo I lost my money,online poker is rigged, heres some worthless proof that actually proves nothing." type of post.

It simply amazes me to think there are so many retarded people that actually think poker must be rigged. Didn't you see what happened at Absolute Poker? It took no time at all for the poker world to see that happening. That means that there are "poker nerds" out there who make it there lifes work to go out and find stuff just like this. If there was even the tiniest bit of evidence that poker sites "stacked" their decks , it would be paraded out by these people. Instead, all we see is the sore loser, the guy who just lost a lot of money saying this. Yep, musty be the sites fault, because there is absolutely NO way you were wrong, right?

Heres the truth for you idiots that think it's rigged, are you ready for it?
YOU SUCK AT POKER AND ARE TOO STUPID TO SEE THAT YOU SUCK AT POKER.

Yo Tiloke,
It's not that online poker is rigged. The problem is the donks and your gonna get more donks at the low end stakes. When AA gets cracked by 25 os it's not that it's rigged it's the fact that the stupid sob should not have played that hand in the first place. And when that happens to me I'm gonna throw a few 4-letter words his way to let him know he's a donk and I may cry about it in a forum. That's one of the situations these forums are for. So if you want to leave cardschat, be my guest dude, I sure as hell won't lose any sleep over it.

Did you even read my post? Did I say bad beats don't happen? It's common knowledge that the low limit tables are filled with donks and you can't measure a poker site by how the low limit tables play.

My rant was about the retards who decide that the site is out to get them and rigging their decks when that happens. In their infinate poker wisdom, they have decided that that kind of thing could NEVER happen to them becase they play perfectly. Then these retards feel the need to go to forums and tell everyone that the sites are cheating and lieing and stealing to make them lose when they were so obviously ahead and gonna win. It's just stupid. What the hell could the site possibly have to gain by making the underdog win more often? They would get the same exact rake no matter who wins the hand.

That's fine dude. Do me a favor, do 20 pushups, 50 situps, 100 jumping jacks and run around the block a few times to vent some of this rage you have stored inside your body, then I'll meet you at the bar for a beer.

How bout a Heads up 5 bucker on FT? Up for it?



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crap , never mind I goota go do Christmas shoppin. later though

I'm playin 3 tournies at the present time, but I'll take a rain check.

well not once in my post did i say it was rigged learn to read i just said it was underdog friendly which is to say that the underdog wins alot not that its fixed that way

Saying it's underdog friendly IS saying it's rigged. If you think the underdog wins more often than it statistically should, then you think the site is rigged in favor of the underdog. This is about as simple as logic gets, really.

i deal cards for a living and underdog friendly poker happen as well you can sit down and lose to underdogs all day long cause they are willing to chase with that 2nd pair and hit thier set it happens evrywhere so does that meen i think real poker rooms are rigged ..........like i said i deal for a living so no real poker rooms are not rigged............

It is true that Ultimatebet has a reputation for being "unlucky" in terms of the amount of bad beats via word of mouth. If you ever talk about UB on 2+2 or Pocket 5's, people whine more about Ultimatebet then any other site. Still, there is no way you can solidify any evidence to prove this theory. I've lost a fair amount of money on there but that really isn't saying anything. That's poker and that's life. Tough luck

Well you are probably used to the losing, being a Bengals fan and all

ONLINE POKER IS RIGGED! STOP PLAYING AND POSTING HERE!

AWW!

It's not unusual to make a bet with second pair or any pair for that matter. I mean, what if you're just trying to find out where you stand? It's not like you can just ask point blank and know you'll get an honest answer. So ya bet. Same with draws I suppose. If ya bet and the other person raises, ya figure they've really got something while you're chasing. So ya fold, unless they don't raise by much cuz then you're in it.

Just a thought.

Ultimatebet has a bad beat generator it's known as th Philerator,just joking of course so dont flame me

I have over 100 "buddies" who are never online. These are crazy mofos who called with crap and won. I fully believe they had very brief hot streaks and went on to lose their ill gotten gains.

So here's your explanation. I figure that it's not easy to work a mouse when you only have a flipper. I also figure it's hard to make proper hand selections when you're a moron. Thus I'm amending my Ultimatebet theory(ah heck it's a hypothesis at best, ya got me). A bunch of the players at Ultimatebet are Thalidomide babies, and here's the amendment - Crack babies.

It makes perfect sense. See they're accidentally calling with their stubby little flipper hands(those are the Thalidomide babies). And intentionally calling with mega-crap that only a crack baby would call with.

It makes perfect sense now. Thalidomide babies and crack babies. It's tragic really. I almost feel sorry for them. Almost. Aww poor little flipper handed idiots. I really feel sorry for them now.

I'm not a proponent of the rigged agenda but I do have a serious problem with Ultimatebet. I only play online at Sportsbook and Poker Stars because I seem to do well on these sites and I patiently, little by little pad my BR. The reason I left Ultimatebet was because after I sent a rather discouraging letter to support there asking about Absolute Poker affiliations and not sure whether they were safe from security breach they couldn't convince me to keep playing there. So I figured I'd play out my small BR I had there and this is no shit, and I do have the hand histories......
after that email I LOST 53 all-ins (or all-in by showdown) hands IN A ROW. I was ahead percentage wise when cards up 48 of the 53. So I chalked it up as the longest freakin cold streak of my life. And left Ultimatebet.

Here's my 2 math Questions.....

What are the chances (odds) of flipping a coin heads 53 times in a row?
and
What are the chances of losing 53 all-ins in a row when ahead 48 of those times when the cards are up?

Anyways, true story.

Peace

All poker forums have these rants and what I say is do as much studying on Bankroll Management as you do on how to play the game. Streaks happen in this game--good and bad. You have to learn to weather the bad ones.

Go to FullTilt and read some of the tips from Chris Ferguson. He has written some good stuff.

Underdog friendly? Really?

Thanks for reminding us about a thread from before Christmas last year.

Didn't see this until now :O.

Hey atleast we've made the playoffs in the past 5 years. I also enjoyed trouncing the browns playoff hopes in December this year. This is all said with the assumption you're a browns fan. Regardless, you are probably twenty times better than any Steelers fan.

To get on topic somewhat, I don't know who was talking about it but Ultimatebet's customer support is pretty horrendous, had much more luck with Absolute when I was playing on those two sites. My advice? Slap your money on FT and Pokerstars and play good poker and eventually you will find smaller amounts of bad play as you move up the buy in (for the most part).

I assume you know why the NFL won't let Columbus have a pro football team.
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If they let Columbus have one, then Cleveland And Cincinnati will want one too!

New 2 cardschat myself..Butt like reading all the badd beat stories...Remembr it's poker..Have funn..N E 2 cards may winn...Smiles all

Its the same online as offline. Premi hands get cracked. I like the donks that suck out every now and then. Thats what keeps them playing bunk hands. Be patient and stay on your game and you will see the rewards. If you keep thinking about one hand you took a badbeat on then, maybe take a break from poker. Being stuck on it is going to affect your play.

I Feel Your pain Rick I Hate player like that i call them
HOPE & A PARYER players!
alway suc out on river bad beats..ETC!!!! but i think its the poker site
Card Generator the player that play there all the time no the FLOP and of course they hit casue of the card generator. is so tyipcal exspecially at
POKER STARS aka joker pokerstars lol.. i always get succout bad beats there.
but i keep on going back lol, for more...
so sick
peace out

Ill tell u this...if its so far from the truth ...why is it that they put MONEY cards on the river so much
a SINGLE card that makes BOTH players hand, but one player hits the bigger hand...
such as...a straight card that is also a flush card?
happens too much to be a fcking coincidence...i deal cards, and i deal sht that happens like that, but the point is...it happens WAY too much on sites like bodog, Ultimatebet,
U have to be extremely perfect to DODGE losing ur stack on hands like those..meaning world class folds depending how the hand was played out!

Didn't see this until now, definitely not a Browns fan, but I do share their (and apparently your) mutual hatred for the Steelers. Broncos fan myself.

I agree with you, I refuse to put money back into ultimate bet because I have lost so many hands because of runner-runner. I personally think bodog is better in that aspect, granted you will lose some hands win you go in winning, but not nearly as often.