UB is Horrible

Wow, UB has really changed. I gues since they have been hacked they needed to update their software. They have just made it like everyone esle's. How unfortunate. UB is horrible..... I have learned my lesson.

They have bigger problems than their look. Apparently they had another 'paying the wrong player' issue. This time they paid a player not even in the hand. Last time they paid Helmuth and he lost the hand.

Maybe I should go check my account to see if they paid me when I haven't even been logged in.

I really like ultimate bet.
Absolute on the other hand i`can do without.
I play there still,but just seems so unforgiving.
Think i have seen more suck outs on the river at absolute than any other site.
Just my opinion,but i`still ove the late night sngs on ultimate bet.

They have both been combined into one site now...

I have to agree with you. I liked the setup of the site alot more before it joined with sister sites. It now has a setup which I tried to stay away from before. Harder to find tournies that were easy to find before. It just makes it a little more difficult. Also, they now allow 7500 people ontl the freerolls and they are always full. For $50 to the top 18!!!! Oh My God.

play there if u want ur monies stolen

Well i played there CC freeroll today there and it all seemed ok but hey i just got 6 dollars and well i need more to really play some poker theree XD

I haven't played UB in a loooong time, but I'm going to give it another shot just b/c of the widely available freerolls. I'm leery of putting any of my own money there, though, so if I can build a little bankroll through fr's, then I'll use that $$ to make an opinion about the site.

A thing to think about RE: Hellmuth getting paid for a loss: If the site was going to juke ppl out of cash, do y'all really think they would use a super-high-profile name like PH's to do it with?? That makes zero sense.

I have played in UB since I started playing Holdem and i think its better than the other sites. I do have to admit it has changed completely but the amount of people playing hasn't much changed. UB works better for me cause im only able to play late at night and i never seem to have a problem finding tourneys at 3am.

With $50 prize money and up to six thousand players, there are much better sites to earn a freeroll bankroll from than ub. Bodog does £500 freerolls, for example.

I deleted Absolute awhile ago but I still have a bankroll at ultimate and usually play a couple sit-n-goes there every day. I think if my bankroll started getting big there I would pull some out instead of movin g up in stakes. I'll use FullTilt and Poker stars to move up.

UB is indeed not the best site. They have freerolls for 50 dollar but there to many donkplayers who go all in all the time.
The best are still pokerstars and fulltilt in my opinion and i recently played on bodog and i also liked this one (they have a 500 dollar freeroll (with rebuy in first round)

UB used to be my place to play, but since they have changed their software i swear i havent won a thing... i do not play there anymore.. i have written them countless #s of times telling them how ridiculous their site is now.. and i have not even got a reply from them about why they changed or anything... it would be good customer service to at least reply to ppl when they have questions about thier site.......

What are you saying? You doubt this happened? It's been documented and verified, even on UB's own blog. The conclusion has to be that it's a software glitch, evidence of misuse of cheating software a la superaccounts or manipulation by a disgruntled employee. What other explanation is there? What makes no sense?

Why would you want to play at a site where any of the above conditions occur, especially with the Absolute potripper scandal and the UB Russ Hamilton scandal?

Not sure which one is the worst - UB or AP ...? At this point, I'm inclined to say AP is worse, but maybe that's because I cannot get logged in since their introduction of Cereus - my question has become - Are You SERIOUS ??

Since they combined and I tried to log-in to AP, I got a message that says "user nevadanick already exists" so I must choose another name. Of COURSE it exists - it's ME !!! 'doh....

So I changed it to nevadanick_1 and it 'ABSOLUTE-ly' refuses to finish a log-in for me. That makes my work easy. When I'm in the mood, I'll just uninstall AP, which I understand many players have already done. I should be in good company of non-AP players.

Back to UB - imo, the new software is terrible. I wrote 2 different e-mails to UB support and have received a reply to only one so far. The first was about moving tables and getting pushed into back-to-back big blinds. Their reply was, in part, "This is done randomly and, although rare, may result in a player having to post several big blinds in a row." 'Real' poker sites know how to move a player without beating them to death with the blinds.

The second e-mail inquired about their card shuffle. I really want to know if UB (and AP) run their shuffle like Stars and pre-set the 52 card deck before the first card is dealt, or if they use a constant shuffle and deal cards 'on demand' as Full Tilt does. Have yet to receive a reply, even though Paul Leggett's statement on Tokwiro's website reads: "Our company is committed to being the most transparent site on the net and to providing our players with a personal touch that other sites do not. I speak to many players myself, I grant a lot of interviews, we offer phone support and our security team speaks with players on a daily basis. We hope that you start to notice the improvements we are continually making to improve our service and transparency."

I really do understand that large corporations invest their operations in numerous countries, but UB and AP operations should give online players some cause for concern. From Towiro's website: "Tokwiro Enterprises, ENRG ("Tokwiro"), is a registered Mohawk sole proprietorship, proudly rooted in the Mohawk community of Kahnawá:ke, and inscribed in the Province of Quebec’s corporate registry. Tokwiro Enterprises is owned 100% by Joseph T. Norton." also "Tokwiro has operations in the Kahnawá:ke Mohawk territory and in Costa Rica and Panama that provide many economic and social benefits for more than 500 employees, their families and communities."

That said, 60 Minutes reported that the Kahnawake Gaming Commission houses 60 computer systems for online gaming sites. Isn't that a lot like the wolf guarding the chicken coupe - responsibly? Why not let Steve Wynn in Las Vegas run the Nevada Gaming Commission???

Since Tokwiro admits to operations in Canada (Mohawk Territory), Costa Rica and Panama, why are their domain names registered elsewhere? AP is registered on the island of Madeira, Portugal and UB is registered on the island of Malta off the coast of Sicily.

Don't let any of this concern you though. They assure you - your money is secure and they work tirelessly to give you a safe gaming environment. ...