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  Poker - are they donkey or not
 
  #36  
29-11-2007, 6:46 AM
nevadanick
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One name I didn't see mentioned was Sammy Farha. He tries to play as many hands as possible and will try to see every cheap flop. Nothing in the flop, Sammy's out most of the time, and he hits weird hands a lot. Why? Because he plays them. Dangerous part of that in playing against him would be trying to guess when he hit, when he had a monster, or a bluff. He's another big name that can turn anything into a winning hand.

Donkey is probably one of the single most overused words in online poker. As much as I've played live tables over the years, I think I see 'donk' more online in an hour than I hear at a live table in a year. (and that's NOT because they deal more hands per hour - lol) I would say that 'donks' on live tables are normally called 'fish' and we love them, bless their hearts.

Online poker created a unique 'fishing' situation. In a lake, like live poker, there are many fishermen and fewer fish. On the flat screen felt, there are so many 'fish' in the water fighting for bait, it's hard to get your boat launched.
 

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  #37  
29-11-2007, 1:31 PM
philthy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OzExorcist
We know it as the flat tyre, but I'll start throwing "The Philthy" into my live patter and see if anyone picks up on it
Dang. You're right.

Forget that hand, then.

I claim the term: "Pocket Turkeys" or 55.
That term isnt taken yet?
  #38  
29-11-2007, 4:38 PM
dj11
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dj's definition of a donk is the guy who starts with 92o, sees a flop of AAk and fires at it, getting called by someone who probably has either an ace or a k. When the turn is another Ace, the 92 guy fires again, and is called again, and when the river shows a Q, the 92 guy shoves, and is called again, by the guy with the case ACE.

the 92 guy is a donk. He committed to a full play bluff from the git go , with absolutely no consideration of backing down. He would likely tell you his bluff was in full force, he planned it that way to look like he had the case ACE, and in his mind it was a war of wills.

It was then, and probably was most of the time something he could not do.

Dynamically re-assessing a hand as it develops is crucial to anyone hoping to improve, and donks seldom show that capability.
  #39  
30-11-2007, 7:30 AM
reglardave
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By OPs definition, here's a few "donks" to contemplate- Gus Hansen, Grinder, Antonious, Negraunu, Esfandieri.........I could go on and on. My point, though-I'd swap Brs with any one of them.
  #40  
30-11-2007, 7:48 AM
aliengenius
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dj11
dj's definition of a donk is the guy who starts with 92o, sees a flop of AAk and fires at it, getting called by someone who probably has either an ace or a k. When the turn is another Ace, the 92 guy fires again, and is called again, and when the river shows a Q, the 92 guy shoves, and is called again, by the guy with the case ACE.

the 92 guy is a donk. He committed to a full play bluff from the git go , with absolutely no consideration of backing down. He would likely tell you his bluff was in full force, he planned it that way to look like he had the case ACE, and in his mind it was a war of wills.

It was then, and probably was most of the time something he could not do.

Dynamically re-assessing a hand as it develops is crucial to anyone hoping to improve, and donks seldom show that capability.
Pretty harsh assessment of someone with enough balls to fire three times...

There's a lot more actions that would constitute "donk" than that...
  #41  
30-11-2007, 10:24 AM
nevadanick
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dj11
dj's definition of a donk is the guy who starts with 92o, sees a flop of AAk and fires at it, getting called by someone who probably has either an ace or a k. When the turn is another Ace, the 92 guy fires again, and is called again, and when the river shows a Q, the 92 guy shoves, and is called again, by the guy with the case ACE.
THAT would be a donk. What it has evolved into online is when the 9,2o player hits and wins. He's still called a donk for even playing that kind of hand. Funny thing is - he played it and won. Anyone can play any 2 starting cards, IMO, without being a donkey. Poker is about what you see and do AFTER the cards are on the board.

Even when calling an all-in preflop with 9,2o - they are that player's cards and chips. If that player is willing to risk their chips and seat for a 9,2o, then it is their choice. I don't play that way and try to stay out of preflop all-ins. I'd rather play poker than the lotto. Doesn't matter whether you're all-in with AA or 9,2 - it's poker lotto at it's finest, but it doesn't make either party poker a donkey.

After all, aren't the AA and the 9,2 both offsuit?? ..
  #42  
30-11-2007, 5:55 PM
vanquish
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3-barreling with trash = donk?
uh oh
 


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