Seals with Clubs

anyone play on Seals with Clubs? just wondering how the whole bitcoin thing works out. i guess you can cash out and receive the $ in 2 days. anyone?

I have played there a few times, i wasnt impressed with the software. I dont trust the site. Heres more info.

http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...sealswithclubs
http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...sealswithclubs

thanks for the info Jim....i will stay away. if you dont mind me asking, where do u currently play?

I play on several Merge skins, mostly Hero lately.
I also play on ACR and True poker, both are on the Winning Poker Network.

I play on SWC, and it is not a fraudulent site. You can see my thread on BitCoin Poker here on Cardschat

Introduction to BitCoin poker

I made 96 bitcoins so far, that's almost $500. Granted, I thought bitcoins would collapse at first but it seems they've stabilized at about $5 a piece. Cashouts are quick, less than 24 hours most of the time, sometimes within hours. The software isn't the greatest, but the new software has Holdem, Omaha Hi and Omaha HiLo 8s or better. There are hourly freerolls and small money added half hour SNGS, that's how I made my 96 bitcoins, from nothing. It can't hurt, and I know a lot of you are freeroll hunters.

I've heard decent things from a couple people. Evidently, these couple of people were a large proportion of the player pool, looking at the traffic, LOL. But it seems the cashouts are quick. I have never bothered with it myself, mainly because I have never bothered with Bitcoin.

Out of curiosity Corey, how long did it take you to build up that 96 bitcoin?

About 5 months

They have a new 60 BTC Guaranteed on Sundays for 2 BTC, so far it's been getting 21-25 players, so there's a small overlay. Also on Wednesdays check out the 10 BTC Freeroll sponsored by.. well it's a competitor so I guess I can't say to be fair. Just login and check it out.

The new Omaha Hi and HiLo games that have been running lately, some at stakes of 10/20 (that's .01/.02BTC) have been filled with some serious Omaha Donks. I've been making a decent amount there lately.

One of the owners Bryan Micon is a very shady individual.

While I won't deny this (it goes hand in hand with his perpetual brokeness), I don't think he has any ownership, or if he does, it is likely a small share tossed to him to promote the site.

Just played there. Seems to me there was collusion going on. From what I read in the thread linked to they have unecrypted passwords and even worse, you can register mutiple users and play from the same IP. I am sure they cannot detect someone using a proxy server at all. Additionally there is this shady owner. So I would definitely stay away from this site built on top of a $99 poker server software.

You can't play at the same table with the same IP there, I'm pretty sure. But that's just the tip of the iceberg, people who are determined to collude online will do it.

I wouldn't give up on Bitcoin poker just because you don't like this owner or the way the site is setup, for example OneVillain is a new site that's entirely Heads-Up, so collusion is impossible. Rake is dirt cheap, 1%, because there's little overhead using bitcoins and not spending resources policing collusion.

I would say there's enough action right now that you could make bitcoin poker your primary grind, certainly a good supplement if you want part of your bankroll available for quick withdraws. It's perfect if you like HU and short-handed.. if you want to 12-table against nits, gotta stick with US dollar poker for now, heh.

Hey guys, this is Micon here, I am the affiliate manager and site pro for SealsWithClubs.

We a recent increase in traffic, we now have games running around the clock at micro and low stakes, with the occasional medium stakes game a few times per week.

The bitcoin idea is really cool and I've been using it for about 1.5 yrs now. Ask me anything, I'm here to help and we are doing something really awesome at Seals. Rake is super-duper low and we have tons of promotions to make it even lower for our players. We are trying to change the economy while removing the bank.

Are you still a donator in the 8-16 mix at Aria???

You said anything...

I have played a little time ago but was not impressed

It has been 12-24 for some time, and I don't play. You guys are too good and I don't play poker much anymore. I am solely focused on SealsWithClubs and helping grow the bitcoin poker scene.

Check back some time - we have significantly more action since this thread was created. Most of the boys that have played recently have found the site to be extremely soft. Our rakeback and promos make this and insanely cheap site to play on - easily the lowest rake in the industry.

You can't pitch a poker site IMO - once you advertise, players will try you out. If they find soft games and fast cashouts they will stay. I'm proud to say we have that over at Seals.

Well I am going to check it out. If for no other reason I am new and interested in Bitcoins. It might be a way to get a few free ones it anything else

Freeroll MTTs run every hour and award 50 chips FTW, aka .05 btc aka about $.58 ATM.

If you send me a screen name I'll ship you a free 500 chips on Seals, or about $6 USD

shipped on Seals / can't PM yet / don't have 15 posts but grinding at that figure

Thanks again!

Yeah Micon gives free bitcoins. I've seen it myself! (No Rollover either by the way but you really ought to try to grind it up)

I have played a few freeroll's at SWC, the software would have been nice in 1998. But i would try it again if i has a few chips, cant be much worse than Lock.

I just Re-read this thread, it appears you start by saying negative things about both me as well as Seals, but seem to have come around and want some free chips.

What changed for you in the last few months?

They use bit coins as a currency I think Dutch Boyd created the site with Bryan Micon

I saw this thread, created an account and played their hourly 54 max winner take all freeroll. The flash player was pretty poor for me (had to log out/log in twice). The lobby is pretty myopic, there's not much you can see unless you take the time to highlight each line then click on each button. It might be ok if you're using an old pc or have a slow connection. I can't see this requiring much bandwidth. Maybe good in internet cafes because of the flash player tables.
However, I do like concept of the bit coins.
I heard Dutch Boyd was having trouble finding a minimum wage job no one would hire him. It's kinda funny if he is involved in this site.

Id like to try out seals with clubs and bitcoins. Do you think you could send me some free chips to try it out? my name on seals is tourneypro thanks alot.

i opened an acount several months ago but never did anything else, i meant to look into what bitcoins were but never got around to it.

you cant beat free coins though if he offered.
my user name there is 3arths3nding

1) In our 2+2 thread Freemoney explains Dutch's involvement. It was very brief and never involved the playing software.

have 500 free chips then! that is .5 bitcoins and currently btc = $13.27 as of this exact moment on MtGox, the largest exchange.

You have also been shipped a free 500 chips just for asking! now I can't do this too much because then ppl start coming out of the woodwork. But if someone tells me a reasonable story and I believe you are new to bitcoin, new to Seals I'll ship out a few more 500 chips faceshots.

Shipped you 500 chips Tdubs - tytyty for starting the thread so long ago! (I don't have PMs until 15 posts)

Thanks micon. The site is great. I busted out pretty fast but the community is awesome. Some good people and good players. I hope the site and bitcoins are a big success for you. Still unsure if i;m ready to buy into bitcoins but the whole idea seems pretty cool.
After losing so quickly I didnt get a chance to play very much. I was hoping I could ask you for another 500 chips. I really want to see how big of a bankroll I can build by sticking to the freerolls and the half hour tourney. My mistake was playing the cash game and underestimating the competition. Either way thanks again for letting me try the site. TourneyPro

thanks Micon, good luck with all your endevours. donkdown is a way of life

Spanky - thanks for playing. I give out those 500 chips shots out of my own pocket, and I have thrown out a grip all over the internet and to my friends.

Think of it as the drug dealer they made up in the 80's "I'll give you this crack for free the first time, then after that it costs!"

You are correct about the community, it feels like more of a poker club to me. Very close knit community.

Coinbase is the exchange most btc users in the USA are using for <$100 deposits or withdraws if you are looking for a cheap way to buy small coin from your computer.

also, the freeroll runs every hour! hammer away!

Jim, can i take a guess and say that you are om Team Todd

hey i see a page on the seals website for rakeback. is there rakeback? and if so how much?

Micon, my screen name is alevay and I would like to have the 500 chips sent to me so I can give it a shot! I have been on there for a few days and appreciate the effort you guys are putting forth and the fact you use bitcoins. Good luck!!

I'm not really on a team, but Micon is a shady individual.