Pre-flop raises are critical

Haven't really been playing much hold'em the last 2 weeks but I decided to play a single table SNG on Stars last night. Within the first 5 hands the 2 crazies at the table were gone and the game got exceedingly tight. Almost every hand there would be nothing but limp ins. Two hands I want to talk about and they both happened while I was in the BB.

First hand I'm in BB with 8-4 offsuit. Middle position calls, button calls, I check to see the cheap flop. Flop comes 9-4-4 rainbow - I have trip 4s. I bet 150 (blinds are 25-50), first limper goes allin, button calls, I call. first limper has pocket 10s, second limper has A-9 suited so they both have 2 pair and are serious dogs to my trips. An 8 falls on the turn which seals the hand for me - both are gone and both had me dominated pre-flop - but neither pushed me out.

Next orbit I'm in big blind with 6-7 offsuit. Middle position lims in, button raises to 3xBB, I debate for a second (low cards had been flopping) but I fold. Flop comes 3-4-5 rainbow - would have flopped nut str8 had it not been raised pre-flop to push me out. What would have been even worse is the 2 people in the hand had A-5 offsuit and A-2 suited respectively. Both ended up allin, A-2 won - but I would have beaten both.

I'm not the most aggressive pre-flop raiser in the world, but these 2 hands certainly illustrate what it's so critical to push the junk hands out. BTW, I went on to win this one...

The extra bonus with raising preflop is that you usually get heads up on the flop and a bet here regardless of what you have will result in a fold.

It never fails to amuse me either that when the BB does raise before the flop in a smallish stake game that every one who has just limped in will usually call this raise as well

This i think also links with your previous post on "its only a quarter" etc.

BB - .25c - 4 or 5 limp in - BB raises to .50c the same 4 or 5 all call in a follow the leader style

Makes me laugh each time

As is often said "if its not good enough to raise with its not good enough to call either"

IanT

Regarding pre flop raise. A situation comes up for me frequently it seems. I'm early utg or in the bb and have say aj or 10's. Now conventional wisdom states that I should raise to drive out other players. but it seems that I always get a caller or 2. now the flop comes out that misses me completly. all low cards or a k or such. Now I fire a contuniation bet and get 1 fold and one caller. turn comes no help. now what? if i bet he'll call or raise and i'm out those chips can't call a reraise. You don't know where your at. If i check and they bet it's a fold. So I'm out those chips.
Now let's look at if I limp from early positon and get other limpers or possibly a small raise. If the flop misses me completly I can just fold. If the flop hits I've desquised my hand so i can check raise or just bet out.
sometimes i belive that limping and calling from early position can be the best play.
That being said, i'f i'm late in the hand. cutoff or button i will bring it for a raise. I think the power of positon has a lot to do with the preflop raise than the raise it's self.

Agree with you Xandit but even a 3xBB raise will generally clear out the junk hands and it would have gotten me out in the hand I mentioned. If you have anything resembling a good hand, like the A-T or TT you mention then a moderate raise will at least get the junk limpers out - sometimes...

I was in a ring game a few days ago with A-rag in the BB. No one raises, and the flop pairs my A and the rag. One guy suddenly makes a huge raise. Sensing his despiration, I call him. End result: He was slow playing Cowboys and got pissed when he saw the Ace on the flop, which was what I guessed. I won a substantial pot, and his response was, "I guess that is why you're supposed to raise pre-flop." Yup - great example.

If you have a decent hand, you should always raise (at least 3x the big blind) if everyone just calls the big blind. You need to get players out to increase your odds of winning and it prevents players with crap hands to get a great hand on the flop. If I was the player who had pocket 10s, I would have most definitely raised. Chances are, IrishDave would have folded and I would have the best hand.

Great post, IrishDave. I learned this the hard way and have even made notes in my tracking spreadsheet to the effect of "This is why you need to raise preflop!"

The last think you want is for your unraised pocket aces to be cracked by the big blind with 53 offsuit when he gets lucky enough to flop something good.