pokerstars deal

will other players that play on pokerstars look into something . think there is something strange about their deal ive started to track my hands on Pokerstars because i seem to get alot of hands delt with a 2 3 or 4 in it well after tracking my last 5 tournys ive found that over 65% of all my hands have a 2 3 or 4 delt in it .thats not normal chck it out next time you play on Pokerstars and see how many hands you rae delt 2/8 or 3/9 or 4/q always 2 3 or 4 somretimes 20 hands in a row .watch iit you will see.

How many hands are we talking about?

well over over 700 now .just this last tourny i just finished had 128 hands delt 73 had a 23 or 4 ...65 did not

sample size not large enough. end post.

What I was thinking.

Paydirt, have a look through this thread: Rigged: The AA test

Granted, it's looking at AA and not low cards, but over the course of almost 400,000 hands it shows PokerStars is dealing pretty close to the statistical expectation.

700?? LMAO!! Come back when you have 70,000!

oh I wish i were a mod with a ban hammer

This looks like another "conspiracy theory" post IMO. Sorry, but bad hands do happen.

..and the other ten hands got mysteriously lost in the voids of space and time?

Just looked at my cash game database of 130,000 hands I've played. The hand I've been dealt the most times is 97o = 1245 times, followed by J8o and 73o. Lowest amount of times I've been dealt is 53s = 346 times closely followed by J3s, Q3s.

The only statistic your 'Stats' show is that your sample size is infinitetessimally small to warrant a relevant comparison .

Give the OP some credit, at least he came up with a new spin on the rigged idea

guys i was not saying that it was rigged ..simply saying i noticed alot of hands with 23 or 4 in it and tracked my last few tournys to see that those cards came up more often than not.

You're not likely to be given that privilege if you think everyone that posts something you don't like should be banned

Well you do realize that a little over 41% of hands have a 2, 3, or 4 in them right? So 65% is a little bit of a streak, but not horribly far off from the expected value.

Track about 10k hands instead of 700. You will find the number 2 3 and 4 to decrease overall in percentage.

700 is just too few hands.

I asked a question yesterday about getting a 2 3 or 4 in my hole cards over 65% of the time i play on pokerstars and was told i think it's rigged
Never said it was rigged just said there is something wrong that everytime i play my hole cards over 60 some % of the time has a 2 3 or 4 in it . Now just played a sit an go played 26 hands 16 of those hands started with a 2 3 or 4 it not right something is wrong . please look at your hand history or count the next time you play on Pokerstars the number of times in a tourney the your hand has a 2 3 or 4 as 1 of your hole cards

well if ur saying something is wrong, ur saying it is not normal
are u not?
if ur saying it is not normal then ur saying it is rigged
plus as was said in the other post, ur sample size is way too small
if 65% of 50,000 hands contained a 2 3 or 4 then u have a case
but not when u play 100 hands

It really isn't necessary to start a whole new thread saying basically the same thing. I'm going to merge the two threads. Let's keep the discussion in the same place.

WOW here we go look i'm asking other players to check because i can't under stand why everytime i play my hand have a 2 3 or 4 in it a very high % of the time and the reason i said not normal because those 3 cards should not come any more than any other

Have played over 1000 tourneys on Pokerstars can get my history but how can i sort through to see the % without going through each hand .would take forever?

They've told you why - but it appears that you're not listening!

Why is is I ask a simple question that I notice unusual amount of the same cards in my hand and right off people think your trying to start trouble.
was just asking for help to see if it was just me or bad unuseal run but forget it

It seems you won't let it rest - otherwise why would you start a new thread asking exactly the same thing?

take a break

and to answer your question never posted on here and could not find other post. and now i KNOW WHY I DON'T COME ON FORUMS BECAUSE OF CLOWNS LIKE YOU

We will miss your keen insight to the lumping of random numbers. I surely want to play with you, though, because I want somewhere for the dealer to put all my 2, 3 and 4 cards.

is he really serious?
ill leave it at that

Must be serious, or presumably wouldn't have started two threads about the same thing

Then you obviously haven't been to many forums, if you think that people are causing trouble here. Seriously, did you even read all the responses? A number of people have helped and answered your question.

Well 46.6% is a little over 41% - isn't it?

To answer the question: yes, I think you'll find it's just a "bad unusual run". I don't think anything sinister is going on, or that there's anything fundamentally wrong with the shuffling routine on PokerStars.

What people are saying is that 700 hands isn't really that many - all sorts of weird stuff can happen, including getting dealt a disproportionate run of crappy cards. It happens to me all the time playing live, where there's no random number generator to blame.

If you keep track of your cards over 7000 or 70,000 hands, however, you'll likely see the statistics even out.

Seriously, have a look at the AA thread I posted the link to above. It shows over 400,000 hands, compiled from loads of different players, that people are getting dealt AA about the right number of times on PokerStars. One group of hands can't be way out of whack without affecting the other groups.

Paydirt, let me spin your spin in another direction. We have all had streaks with shit for cards, and 700 hands ain't much.

Within a month or two, you will exxperience the opposite end of the spectrum, having hit AK or Q in equally appalling numbers.

Oh by the way, the thing with streaks is that for every bad one, there's a good one, and for every really bad one there's a really good one. Etc ad nauseum.

it's the exact opposite with me. i get dealt an ace with a great kicker everyother hand. my sample size is only 3 hands but i figure this is enough for me to go pro with.

OMGZ - is that you Jerry Yang?!?!?

i don't know where you saw that quote by pigpen, but that math is not correct. 41.176% is the right number, gotten by 12/52 + (12/51)*(40/52)