POCKET JACKS!!!

is it just me but do pocket jacks rarely ever hold up in comparision to queens kings and bullet??

i never surrtain about them to be onest u wud obviously alwayz call because u need to c the flop!

Personally, I have never had good luck with pocket J's or A's unless I bet a huge amount pre-flop. Then, if no one calls, all you get is blinds or if they do call, I generally lose to two pair. One day though....

They're horrible to be honest. I rarely win with them. Saying that I have folded them before and hit 2 on the flop but that's the way it goes. I often fold and 9/10 I would have lost had I stayed in the hand

If I am in a big tourney, nice stack, tight table, I will call or make a small raise, just to see the flop/get rid of the other players

Unless I flop a set, pocket pairs rarely do me any good. It's amazing how many folks bet & call with connectors (suited or not) and eventually catch the straight or flush. I played in a lot of SNGs this past weekend, had pocket aces 6 times, and lost them all. I will generally call any reasonable bet to see the flop but if I don't improve I'll bail out on any stiff bet. Laid down pocket aces last night when the flop came K-K-7 and I had a bad feeling I was up against a set - which I would have been. Damn hard to lay down though...

it must be just me then but i think pocket j's are a gr8 hand, i'v never lost a hand when i had them , must be lucky for me

I think I lose more with JJ than any other pocket pair. AA can be tricky, but if played correctly - given table conditions, player patterns, etc. - they can win quite often.

One time in a tournament, I was serverly short stacked and needed to do something soon. Suddenly, I got pocket jacks. I bet the minimum to see the flop. A pair of tens came on the flop. I went all in. Everybody folded except for two players. The turn and the river were low cards. As it turns out, the two players each had a ten to make a three of a kind. Beware of pcket jacks, They might be cursed! LOL! It's still better than 2,7 or 3,9.

Pockey jacks are not that strong of a hand... It is the lowest face card and ur goign to need another jack to win , but pocket queens and kings may some time be the higher piar ...Another words pocket jacks are only good if lower card s then a jack come out on the flop

Here is the order of starting hands.

AA KK QQ JJ AK(s) TT AQ(s) AJ(s)
KQ(s) AK 99 KT(s) QJ(s) KJ(s) AT(s) AQ
A9(s) KQ QT(s) JT(s) 88 K9(s) T9(s) A8(s)

I don't seem to do well with pocket Aces sometimes, but I think it has to do more with your betting strategy. High poket pairs are extremely profitable, if you drive out most players pre-flop. In hands where only two people remain before the flop, you can expect to win with AA 67% of the time. With 9 players remaining before the flop your chances drop to about ~20%.

GL all

hate the hooks always get burn, but i cant just fold them. i want to but cant.

As with most things in poker, the rank of starting hands depends upon whose book you're reading. There are actually a few different rankings based upon whatever "formula for success" the "expert" is touting. And personal preference has a role as well. I belong to the "best dealt cards at the time" school of thought, as opposed to the "percentages of improvement" devotees. Because whenever it's your turn to bet, the first question that should cross your mind is, "Do I have the best hand RIGHT NOW?". That's why my very personal opinion is that ANY starting pair is better than ANY two single cards, regardless of rank. Call it simple poker for a simple mind.

Don't buy that? Try this very simple, and only marginally scientific, experiment. Remove an unsuited Ace and King from the deck and lay them down for one starting hand. Remove a small pair (22, 33, 44) from the deck and lay them down for the other starting hand. If you like, deal out some other blank starters to represent as full a ring as you want. Deal the flop, river, and turn. Shuffle and repeat ten, twenty, thirty times...whatever. The more, the better. Now, how did the big singles do against the baby pairs? Hmmmm...interesting.

There are many who disagree, as evidenced by some of the lively discussions we've had on this very subject.

The JJ for me is v periculousy hands, like 88 or 55.. It's the same proble for me... If is not came the third card, then is a bad hand... I not all in with JJ, for me is like a bluff... :P

in short handed, JJ is super

pocket jacks = evil hand

I love jacks, especially pocket jacks. They have been my good luck charm over the years!!

I like seeing them just because it's always nice to see a high pocket pair, but they do scare the crap out of me. If the flop has a Q, K or A I am afraid to stay in if anyone bets large. That's always scary with any pair, but obviously, the lower the pair the more chances to lose.

How can you say that you're horrible? I'll take pocket J against any hand other than QQ KK or AA and we can put money on which hand will win, needless to say, I would win. I'll even take 22 against any hand other than a higher pocket pair and I'll still make money off you, if you've read Super System you would find out that Doyle Brunson took 22 against AK multiple times, put money on it each time, and came out ahead several thousand dollars.

I usually don't want to see flop with jacks. This is the hand i bet the most preflop. If I take the blinds and some limpers I'm happy with that. Otherwise, playing against more than one person fick jacks postflop is not fun. It costs me money.

thats very true,ive fallen with them lots and lots of times>.buck

How many times have you been busted by high cards?

I cant imagine that you've caught poket jacks more than twice in that case