PitBull Poker: SCAM

Kinda like having to respond to "wurs da passwurd?" on freeroll days.

you say youve made $300. the logical thing to do would be deposit $25 and withdraw $300, right. im not saying that the customer service is the greatest, just stating what to me makes good sense of the situation. either lose $300, or deposit $25 and receive 300 free. maybe its just me, but sounds like a good deal.

So you can see how I can relate...

wow me and my boyfriend just discovered pitbull last night!! he played in 25 dollar freeroll and even made it to the final table. he loves it now! guess i'd better warn him : ) theres always other sites : ) thanks for the news! hope you get your money though !

well it makes sense for small sites i would think. they need to make a profit somewhere so they can keep going and even get the chance to grow a little bit. larger sites i believe shouldn't have this because they don't need it. they get enough people and cash from advertising and word of mouth. unless you want to be a sole real money site, than i dont agree with it (for the already grown sites at least)

Just having to make a deposit to withdraw doesn't make the money any less free for the winner. They can just withdraw everything after the deposit, the deposit seems to generally be to just establish things such as that you are an adult and to verify your address. Large poker sites make MORE than enough profit to fund some freerolls, those freerolls are nothing to them. Just do some rough math on how much a site like Poker Stars is making on it's rakes for ring games alone every hour and you'll realize they can easily afford all of those freerolls and cheap XX dollars added tournaments.

Of course the money from the freeroll is free, but do you honestly think that Horatio Alger is CEO of all the major poker sites? The reason large pokere sites offer free tournaments is to advertise the site, so more people will join up, contributimg more $ in rakes, tourney fees and the like. The fact that sites like Pokerstars are profitable doesn't mean they are the Communy Chest. Freeroll prize pools are the same to them as paying Daniel to swing a golf club on their TV commercials, and are there for the same reasonL to bring in more PAYING customers.

Wrap some rough math around this: If there were no Pokerstars. com, only the "free" .net site, how long and how often do you think they would continue to host freerolls?

On almost all sites, you can continue to play poker with your freeroll winnings....what you can't do is withdraw money without a deposit of some sort. It's no different from companies that send you a free sampe of their soap, mouthwash, or "male enhancement" miracle drug. The bottom line: they're trying to get your $. It's capitalism and free enterprise.

If I've already deposited..it's still free money. On PokerStars if I haven't deposited, win a freeroll then make a deposit, I can turn around and withdraw..still free money. Your point of -if- there was only the free .net site is moot, because that's not all there is and they are making a small fortune every single month on rakes and entry fees. Saying -if- it was just the free .net site is like me saying "well we wouldn't be having this discussion if the earth didn't exist". Your point of them trying to get new real money players to deposit, while possibly true, is also moot because you aren't forced to stake any of the winnings/deposits. If you make a deposit on PS you can turn around and withdraw it all at any time, at the expensive of losing any uncleared bonuses. So it's STILL free money either way on that particular site at least. The point here is that at least in the case of PS you don't have to put money you deposit into play to withdraw. It's not like a deposit bonus where you are forced to accumulate a certain number of "comp" points to get the bonus.

I have heard numerous people have bad things to say about pitbull. I've even experienced the rudness of their support staff. They are just not very customer friendly and they don't seem to care that they are getting a bad reputation as a result. I just avoid their site and urge others I know to do the same. Play where the host site welcomes your business. There are plenty of customer friendly sites to choose from, just check the CC forum for advice on the good ones.

I got the free $10, they called me to certify, customer service was ok. i think they are a shell of another site and need you to deposit first to prove to the site funding them that they are not creating players and scamming their bosses

I used pitbull, won a couple dollars in free rolls, and then gave up on the whole flash thing... sorry PITBULL

I didn't like Pitbull... And the Customer service is by far the worst...

well I wasnt aware of how they operated on that site. I will save my money and use it on another site. Thanks for the info

You know Im ashamed to say that I once was a freeroll player,because this is their basic mentality.They want somthing 4 nothing and the second a site asks 4 a deposit or proof of age ect. its trash the site time.#1 if you dont know that ALL sites work this way then this is your 1st time ever building a roll from scratch.I withdrawl from PitBull every month, I've played there 2 years.Deposit $25 and withdrawl your money...Then if you had $25 to deposit you'd not be freerolling huh......the catch 22 of freerollers like you......borrow it,save your allowence.

not sure why you decided to bump a 6+ month old topic, but i play at pitbull and have had no problems. the only problems come from idiots who don't understand the basic rules of the site.

The thing i dont understand is that a site like Pitbullpoker have hang on for soo long i can remember that PBP have giving out 10$ no deposit since i started to play poker some years ago.

I think i even talked with them in telephone..

When will a site like that get down if they isnt serious?..
I mean more people than u cant withdraw their money..

PEOPLE - DONT PLAY THIER!

SAME WITH T6Poker!

As far I know non pokersite lets you to cash out money won at freerols, it´s up to you to decide if you are going to make the deposit and then risk your money (because you have to play with it) to finally cash it out.

I would not deposit on Pitbull if my life depended on it. Seems like a big risk for only 2 days of playing.

this is standard operating procedure for most online poker sites, ur obviously new to the game, this is how it goes...

just think of it as the cost of doing business

hell I've been ripped off WAY worse than you in the past, it can get MUCH worse than this lil thing, welcome to the world of online gambling!

the poker sites want your $$...period, if ur lucky enough to win other peoples $$..grats!, but it's still sitting on their site, and last time I checked, it's pretty hard to get somethin for nuthin in this world...

the hoops that we have to jump thru to get paid is the unavoidable downside of this game....patience and perseverance is needed not only to win other peoples $$, but then extract that $$ from the money hungry grubbers that operate these sites!

GL

Not many sites pay out freeroll winnings.
The last one I can think of, was called BetRoyalPoker.
I cashed out $490 from them.
They went bust.

hey max. I initially made an account at pitbull poker because they were offering an instant ten dollars. Well, I got the ten dollars within an hour after a phone call (simple)

I built it up a few hundred and emailed them. they were courteous, but I had hoped to speak directly to the blonde in the live chat pic........

oh yeah the post...

they said deposit $25 i did, and they sent a check no problem.
Any poker site I've ever played on required a deposit pre-withdrawal...It's a business and they want to keep you playing.
Who knows if when you make your final withdrawal you'll not end up leaving them with $25 or whatever any site's min. deposit is, but they're almost all the same and it should be expected.
Good luck, with both withdrawing and playing
fred

I'm playing in this poker site , can someone tell me if he paying ?
did someone got paid by this site ?

dont deposit by credit card unless you want to send them a photocopy of your drivers license and a front/back copy of whatever card you use. this is pretty standard too.

just deposit the minimum amount and then cash out ...theres no point been pigheaded about it..u won the money ..do watever u have to to get it . but u are right pitbull is a dodgy site.. just say u did make a deposit. would u get a first deposit bonus and if so would u have to earn xamount of poker points before u can withdraw any cash ?

I don't think this requires too much. Poker sites are there for real money players they make money from pot rake and entry fees. They give some back in the form of "freerolls" they are free. The site is not there to take your time and not pay you. They want to convert free rollers into paying customers. Its called business and they are looking to make money( shame on them ) Simple, acceptable practices would include safeguards to protect against any freeloader/ free roller from cashing without depositing. Is there a site that one could cash without depositing? Thais standard operating procedure. If you are feeling so flamed just deposit and then withdraw.
you are correct about 1 thing though...PitBull Poker is crapy alternative to sites lik Stars and Tilt

nice topic.. i think its unanimous though lol that its not a scam, but just normal policy for most poker sites.. and something else ive seen is that the customer service from most poker sites is pretty crappy too.... i had a GREAT customer service encounter with Bodog by the way..

Yeah, it's not rocket science, but their typical bait and switch routine is about as scammy a ripoff as you can find in online poker. Pitbull Poker ripoff happens, when they require you to get 200 comp points which takes forever due to minimal traffic and wild "go broke" players that will bust you every time with junk, but the worst is, even if you DO deposit your own money, regardless you will NOT be allowed to withdraw, until you get 200 comp points.

I told their crap CS to take the 10 bucks off they gave me and give me my deposit back. Nope, can't do it.

Getting money off this site, which is run by ex-porn producers, is like pulling eye teeth.

So that ismy opinion of the pitbull poker ripoff.

Also, to add, I've played every site there is, and nowhere do they say, that if they give you free cash you can't withdraw, EVEN AFTER DEPOSITING. That's crap.

What you people are talking about, is rake back bonus stuff. Understandable. But this is different, and it is a typical pitbull poker ripoff.

Why do you think their traffic hasn't improved one little bit in 3 years? lol. They give away ten bucks like candy, yet the site is still like a startup newbie.

Plus the flash system is just a bit too predictable in outcome. I hope someone writes a program to figure it out, it's based on time factors. Not even close to random so should be easy to crack. Then what will they do.

Not that I care, since there's much easier ways to make money like working a job and not being an online poker loser with a warm mouse and no life.

Once again, the point is, "surprise", YOU CANT DEPOSIT JUST TO CASH OUT.

That's not pigheaded, it's WHAT THEY DO. And yes, by definition, it's a ripoff.

I know, I tried. I ran my free 10 up to 100 or so.
I know the drill, so I deposit, win some more at the regular stt's or whatever. Sit on it a week. Play some more. THEN try to cash out.

Lol. NNoooooooooo way. Can't get your money.

Pitbull Poker is a ripoff, plain and simple. Why anyone would want to play on that slow ass flash site against all in donks is beyond me. They cant even get minimum people into 1 dollar tourney.

Cash poker is not FREE. Incentives to use a site are just that incentives. BUt you gotta gamble a little to reap the benefits. Comon people there is no Santa CLaus in the poker world!!
Peace
FlowJoe

Total scam,ripped my friend off

Jeff Karis

After turning 10 free dollars into over 700 dollars.I needed 67 more comp points in order to cash out.Having already earnI made the required 25 deposit.The agent on the phone told me to add a bonus code for a little extra bonus money he said.He told me it wouldnt effect my cashout as long as I got to 200 comp points.I deposit the minimum 25 dollars making my account 748.I reach my 200 comp points and try to cash out.Then look what happens

Caesar .: Hello, Justin! Welcome to Live Customer Support! How may I be of your assistance?
Justin lanham: i just made a payment request of $300. But it says I still have 596.89 left not $296.89. Why is that?
I just want to make sure everything is ok.
Caesar .: the cashout is deducted from your balance when it is sent to you after 48 hours.... but I have just
checked your account and I see that your request will be rejected because you still have to comply with some
requirement
Caesar.: you need to verify your credit card deposit by sending us paperwork for the card you used
Caesar.: and you also need to reach 303 comp points, because the last bonus you took was at 103 points
Caesar.: I'm sorry, that's 333, the bonus was taken at 133 comp points
Justin lanham: What kind of credit card paperwork?
Caesar.: a form called the Credit Card Authorization Form that I can send to your email right now.... that will be
along with a copy of your picture ID and the front and back of the card you used
Justin lanham: Ok go ahead and send that paperwork to my e-mail
Caesar.: ok, just sent it
Caesar .: any questions so far sir?
Justin lanham: yes I talked to customer service on the phone about 2 days ago right before I made a deposit
Justin lanham: When i had 133 comp points
Justin lanham: He told me I only needed 67 more to cash out
Justin lanham: why are u telling me different
Caesar .: yes sir, but at that moment you took the bonus 200r, which has 200 comp points cashout requirement
Justin lanham: but i already had over 700 in my account before I took that bonus 723 to be exact
Caesar .: unfortunately when you have a comp point requirement to fulfill you cannot make any type of cashout,
even with money that you had previously
Justin lanham: What???
Caesar .: that is our policy sir
Justin lanham: I dont think that is to fair
Justin lanham: for the money i had in there before i deposited to be held hostage
Caesar .: well sir, when you signed up and deposited you agreed to our terms
Justin lanham: I have never known a online casino to do this before
Caesar .: that's why they call it house policy sir, it's our policy
Justin lanham: so i have to meet 333 comp points and turn in my credit card paperwork
Caesar .: yes, that is correct... once you do that you will be able to cashout any amount you want
Justin lanham: just 132 more to go that wont be a problem playing the cash games.But the reviews I place online
about casinos will serve a negative rating for this very policy
Caesar .: I'm sorry to hear that sir... you can also write to our manager to management@pitbullpoker.com
expressing your disatisfaction with the policy set up by them
Justin lanham: thanks alot I defmetely will.Ceasar thank you for your help.
Caesar .: you're very welcome Caesar.: have fun sir! Caesar.: bye

I will not let them win i will earn the the comps they tell me I now have to meet cash out and tell them to kiss my ass

I also got $10 free at pitbull poker. I lost it all and now don't play there, but in the phone call they required to get the free $10 I asked if I turned the $10 into $1000, what did I have to do to cash it out. After cutting through the heavy accent, I got that if I wanted to withdraw, I would have to deposit $25 and earn 200 comp points, but that those comp points could be earned before the deposit. The rep I spoke to was even kind enough to warn me that I could not take any deposit bonuses on the deposit, or I would have to earn another 200 comp points. So, other than the accent, I thought their support was very good (to me).

I made a $25 deposit right after I recieved my free $10. I tryed to cash out at 150 and got nothing but a headache! I feel if I were to continue to try and meet their requirements I would have just got more BS