online poker ban

Has anyone heard about this. http://www.pokerplayersalliance.org/
It has completely passed. Was reading about it on one of my other sites.
Lets all hope this doesn't happen.

typo in my first post it has not completley passed yet sorry

As a UK citizen, I find this whole fuss crazy.

In the UK, we have a Government Agency which monitors all gambling (including poker). Their mission statement:

"The Gambling Commission regulates gambling in the public interest. It does so by keeping crime out of gambling, by ensuring that gambling is conducted fairly and openly, and by protecting children and vulnerable people."

Surely that`s got to be the way to go. In a free and democratic society, Government has no business banning people`s pastimes. It won`t work anyway, it`ll only drive it underground and see it run by gangters, remember Prohibition.

Living in the US, but having dual EU & US citizenship, it looks like I will just change my address on my accounts to my EU address if I need to. If needed I think a demonstration of the million man poker march can be arranged on DC.

Let's do it! (Seriously...)

While there is a chance for this thing to actually pass, I'm guessing that the Senate is still entertaining their fair share of lobbyists.

The government feels the need to regulate gambling. In a way they should. I feel that it would protect both us the gamblers and the casinos. On the other hand it would become almost impossible to regulate online gaming. They can't do it when it comes to pornography and they would havea hard time doing it with gaming. What should happen is to restrict 'legal' gaming to sites based in countries that co-operate with monitering the sites and revenue. It would solve tax-issues and game 'rigging'. That sould be the only concern of our government(s).

Whilst not entirely clear on how American laws pass, but from whati have read a lot of this is down also to appeasing the far-right religious nuts that seem to have a strong hand in theWhite House at the moment.

It seems stage 1 may have passed but at the moment that could be it for a while. It is almost like you been picked for the team but havent got the kit on yet and its not quite game day.

Yes the threat is there but just how are they going to work it - by asking credit card companies to pass on information sounds a little fuzzy to me and with several million online a week who is going to arrest everyone? where are they going to be held, what punishment is there


As a few people have already mentioned - Invasion of Iraq, Israel attacking Lebannon, North Korea testing missles (why does no one talk about that one ) Afghanistan, so called terror alerts, oh and global warming - but no Must stop people playing poker online, behave, if that is a priority my already boiling pot of bile will spill


Enjoy and Peace

Well the government has a lot of people against gaming but the people that support their campaigns are for it because it brings in a lot of tax money. Here in West Virginia gaming has almost become necessary for some communities to survive. If they want gaming there they need to find a good excuse to not have it online.

Has nothing to do with people want or what is right. It has everthing to do with ..............................

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I'm not very knowledgeable on how all this stuff works, so what are the chances that the ban will actually pass??

I give it a 50/50 chance of passing....but either way, enforcement will almost be impossible.

See the post directly above yours. This is America. It basically comes down to who can throw the most money at the politicians. Sad, yes, but true.

Unfortunately, as I have read and understand it, over 99.9% of US based credit issuing facilities (e.g banks, credit unions, etc) will not allow you to use your credit card for online gaming.

For example, any online poker room or even at NetTeller, their merchant IDs have some type of classification so that credit card companies can deny them. I've personally experience this. So that leaves us with wire transfers or direct checking account transfers (although I haven't tried the latter). I don't believe the online ban is coming from the big four (V/M/Amex/Disc) otherwise no cards would ever work. But even at the lower institution level, they are refusing the charges to avoid fraud claims and changebacks that cost them too much money.

So this basically comes down to we all pay for it (by loss of credit card convenience) when these idiots out there charge $2000 to their credit card, don't know what they are doing, lose it all, then cry foul to the card company and get their money back.

*** JD has now left his soapbox.

P.S. - If any of the idiots mentioned above are here reading this, of course you know I didn't really mean it. You can't help that you're stupid. I just wish stupid was painful.

When i first bought into a site I used my debt card which is also a visa. I have never had to re deposit any money but do use net-teller to transfer money between sites.
Anyways, If I had the choice between not playing and paying taxes on my profits I think I'd pay the taxes. Because that is what it is all about the government getting their so called fair share.

I'd say we're all-in, holding 88 against the government's suited KQ going to the flop.

DON"T TAP ON THE FISHTANK!!!

this desribes the situation perfectly

Oh, don't me wrong. I like having the idiots/fish around. But I don't like giving up my conveniences because these people failed Commen Sense 101 and went crying to the credit card companies how they were taken advantage of.

So I'll compromise with you. I won't tap on the fishtank, but I still get to wish that stupid was painful.

I totally agree mr Alon. Money is all the government wants. Untill they find a way to receive their cut, it will stay illegal. I found this article from last year about the state of Washington and online horse race betting.(which is illegal in a large number of states today)Here is a little quote from a chairman of the horse racing commission.

'After the meeting, commission Chairman Gary Christenson rejected any notion that regulators were turning a blind eye to – or even rewarding – illegal gambling.
“It’s almost the opposite. By giving (Youbet.com) a license, we are insuring that the state of Washington is getting the money that’s due it. If we didn’t give them a license, it wouldn’t guarantee that they’d stop,” Christenson said. '

Here is the entire article.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/l...-4461705c.html