Late Registration, somewhat disgraceful

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  #1
17th May 2009, 8:42 PM
wona2009wsopseat
 
Online Poker at: stars/tilt
Game: ?
Late Registration, somewhat disgraceful

FTOPS 24. Look at it. they are letting people register up to 48 minutes late for this, maybe more. Full tilt should just accept their mistake in putting the guarantee's so high without realizing mini ftops was going to take a good portion of the ftops players. That is all.
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  #2
17th May 2009, 8:53 PM
CAPT. ZIGZAG
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Stud8
It used to be that all the chips were laid out in front of every seat and the dealer would take the empty seats blinds as the game went on.

Then, if you bought in late, you would have to sit down in front of a short, or blind pilfered, stack.

Now, at Hawaiian Gardens, Hustler and Commerce, (and prolly the rest for all I know) they let you buy in ANY TIME UNTIL THE END OF THE FIRST BREAK WITH A FULL STACK.

This never sat well with me.


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  #3
17th May 2009, 9:07 PM
DawgBones
 
Online Poker at: FTUBPS
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by CAPT. ZIGZAG
It used to be that all the chips were laid out in front of every seat and the dealer would take the empty seats blinds as the game went on.

Then, if you bought in late, you would have to sit down in front of a short, or blind pilfered, stack.

Now, at Hawaiian Gardens, Hustler and Commerce, (and prolly the rest for all I know) they let you buy in ANY TIME UNTIL THE END OF THE FIRST BREAK WITH A FULL STACK.

This never sat well with me.


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Nope,doesn't seem fair. If they are going to do this they should allow anyone with less than a full stack to do a re-buy for a minimal amount. Perhaps a % based on how much they need. At the casino nearby if your not registered by the start time you're sol.
  #4
17th May 2009, 10:28 PM
aliengenius
 
Poker at: CC LB games
Game: ON !
looks like some nice overlays for a change:

mini needs to get to 10k, ME needs 5k players to cover.
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  #5
17th May 2009, 10:35 PM
Egon Towst
 
Online Poker at: All over
Game: NLHE, PLO
It is true that it dilutes the overlay in this instance. However, as a general rule, players who join the tourney late concede an edge to those who start on time.

If you have confidence that your skill level is higher than the average in the tournament (and if it isn`t, why are you playing ?) then it is to your advantage to play more hands, especially in the earlier levels when blinds are low and there are more post-flop decisions to be made.
  #6
17th May 2009, 10:40 PM
onebourbon
 
Poker at: TiltedSister
Game: holdem
re: Late Registration, somewhat disgraceful poker

Same thing on Poker Stars Sunday $250k...when cards started flying there were 22,708 players...end of registration 45-50 mins later...28,917 registered but only 14,831 players left. (I'm in 1609th)
  #7
17th May 2009, 11:52 PM
Jarod1231
 
Game: Omaha
I agree, this really isnt fair... the only disadvantage you get to registering late is you start as a short stack... but if you're a decent player then you shouldnt have a problem handling being a short stack and can double up in no time to have an average stack... as oppososed to registering on time and taking a few bad beats withing the first few levels
  #8
18th May 2009, 5:55 PM
XxJackAcexX
 
Poker at: Fulltilt
Game: holdem
I'm not a big fan of late reg. at all, my thoughts are if you can't show up on time then you should'nt be able to have a seat, there are many people who will show up early for these events just to be ready.. Its really not fair that people can show up late and still get a seat.

Late reg. is an unfair advantage for the people who can't show up on time
{ Just My opinion }
  #9
18th May 2009, 7:32 PM
Leo 50
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
I hate the late registration thing.
  #10
18th May 2009, 7:56 PM
Passion_play
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
I enjoy the late registration, however on such a big tourney there should be a shorter cap on the late registration of no later then the first 30 mins. In the end it doesnt matter what we like, the sites will continue to do what is profitable
  #11
18th May 2009, 8:05 PM
Grossberger
 
Online Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
I don't mind the late registration thing but I like how some tournaments close it after the first player is eliminated, or in the case of a shootout they divide the players up to the number of tables they need to get full tables in next rounds then close once those tables are full. EX. if a shootout started with with 2456 players then those players get divided up as even as possible on 250 tables and registration is open til 44 more players join or first player is eliminated.
  #12
18th May 2009, 8:09 PM
deadhxc
 
Poker at: a few of em
Game: holdem
re: Late Registration, somewhat disgraceful poker

late reg never bothered me when it runs through the first blind change, kinda dumb imo to let it go all the way to first break though.
  #13
18th May 2009, 8:14 PM
illphillllllll
 
Online Poker at: pokerstars
Game: horse
i agree with egon, a skilled player will benefit by playing more hands, especially with low blinds. anyone who plays at tilt knows that there are always people jumping in after registration. if you don't like it i guess you could just register late if you think it is to your advantage. good luck to all that play, hope one of us cardschat players gets a big score.
  #14
18th May 2009, 9:12 PM
Bren
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Holdem
It has it's advantages, but definitely should be limited to a short time. 10 minutes tops.
  #15
18th May 2009, 9:37 PM
crockofdoom
 
Online Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bren
It has it's advantages, but definitely should be limited to a short time. 10 minutes tops.
Agreed.I would think that 10 mins is alot fairer for everyone.
  #16
18th May 2009, 10:22 PM
PattyR
 
Poker at: full tilt
Game: hold em
5 - 10 min should be plenty of time for late registration

on the plus side though, maybe you could start following
this late registration trend yourself.

it is crappy but what can we do about it besides
complain to fulltilt
  #17
18th May 2009, 10:32 PM
Poker Orifice
 
Online Poker at: kitchen tabl
Game: NLHE
THere's no advantage to starting a tourney late... why would anyone want to conciously want to do so is beyond me??
There have been times where I was out and not sure if I'd be home in time for a tourney, not wanting to reg. in advance in case I wasn't able to make it home. Late reg. has been great for this.

I can count off numerous tourneys that I've missed by 30secs., 2mins. etc. - - arriving home late and then opening up the poker site only to discover I have to run an update prior to getting into the tourney lobby. I've probably missed a half dozen CC games on account of this.

The only situation where late registration really sucks imo, is for satellite tournaments, where one used to be able to see how many are entering and how many will be paid and then can decide if they're interested in giving it a shot. Now when you play them, the field doubles or triples 'after' the satellite tourney starts. I don't particularly like this myself (but then again I'm totally turned off of satellites after the Ftops donkellites..... wow... frigg'n horrible games).
  #18
18th May 2009, 10:33 PM
zachvac
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: NL Hold 'em
re: Late Registration, somewhat disgraceful poker

I'd rather have more people who just register on a whim play. As mentioned before it's a disadvantage to start later if you have an edge in the tournament. If you think starting later is an advantage there's nothing stopping you from just not buying in on time and waiting half hour to buy in. Obviously this holds true as long as it's still early, but as far as I know most tourneys are max 1 hour long late registration and these are usually the ones that take 5+ hours for bubble to break so not being able to accumulate chips definitely outweighs the small advantage of being 100% to be in it with starting stack an hour in.
  #19
18th May 2009, 10:34 PM
Poker Orifice
 
Online Poker at: kitchen tabl
Game: NLHE
cont'd.... (lol).
In the past (on Fulltilt) there'd also be some satellites I'd enter because the guarantee payout was greater than the number of entrants playing in them. I'd wait til' just prior to start time and would enter if it appeared to be fairly lucrative (along with a bunch of others doing the same though, lol). Not anymore.
  #20
18th May 2009, 11:09 PM
Sean Pilgrim
 
Poker at: Her Bedroom
Game: Handcuffs
I love when the daily dollar starts on full tilt on time with 400 players - then by the end of late reg. you have a whopping 800 - 1400 more players
  #21
19th May 2009, 3:23 AM
lektrikguy
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: HE/PLO/Razz
I wonder if they'd get the message if EVERYONE registered late...the tourney starts and there are 0 players. Be impossible to coordinate but I'm really an anarchist at heart.
  #22
19th May 2009, 3:47 AM
nutshooter
 
Poker at: full tilt
Game: holdem
I don't understand what is wrong with it. True late buy-ins give players a minute advantage but at the same time, they have less time to start to win money and they play to the same blinds so it could hurt them.
  #23
19th May 2009, 4:15 AM
Insanity
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Guys...I really do wish i had your problems to complain about. Some of us are still working to catch up to u so i have nothing to offer but I wanted to let u know it could be much worse for you....lol
  #24
19th May 2009, 5:38 PM
CAPT. ZIGZAG
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Stud8
re: Late Registration, somewhat disgraceful poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by lektrikguy
I wonder if they'd get the message if EVERYONE registered late...the tourney starts and there are 0 players. Be impossible to coordinate but I'm really an anarchist at heart.
I like it...


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  #25
19th May 2009, 9:12 PM
Egon Towst
 
Online Poker at: All over
Game: NLHE, PLO
Quote:
Originally Posted by zachvac
not being able to accumulate chips definitely outweighs the small advantage of being 100% to be in it with starting stack an hour in.

Quite correct, imo. If you get to the first break with no more chips than you started with, you made a weak start to the tourney. No reason to worry overmuch about opponents who handicap themselves that way and give you a head start.
  #26
19th May 2009, 10:38 PM
Falloooooon
 
Poker at: PokerStars
Game: Hold 'Em
What I dislike about the late registration for even the micro tourneys at FT is that I might be in the lobby and see a $3 tourney about to start with 200 people in it, and that's cool. I may not feel like playing something that will take 7 hours to win, should I be fortunate enough to contend. But by the time 10 minutes are up, that tournament will have 800 or so players.

I don't get busted by this anymore, I'm not that stupid, but that's what bugs me about it.
  #27
19th May 2009, 11:27 PM
Zeppelin89
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NLHE + Omaha
I hate late registration. I'm a firm believer in being on time. If you're late for a tournament... oh you're late? Too bad, shove off.
 



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