Just got portion of Bad Beat on UB

I was just playing on Ultimate Bet when the Bad Beat jackpot got hit on another table at the same stakes .25/.50 nl and won 28.95 twice because I was playing on 2 tables.

GO O-HI-O GO!!!!! Grossberger that's wonderful. I have come so close but never in all have hit it. I'm very happy for you.

They pay everyone playing at that stake on UB?

Free money, cant beat it. lol

Yea how it works is they take basically 35% off the top 25% for next jackpot and 10% to the house, then whats left loser get 1/2 the winner gets 1/4 everyone else at THAT table gets $1000 then everyone playing at same table type and stakes gets a portion including the winning table. So if your playing at that table and say 3 others you will get the $1000 and whatever the portion is for each table X4.

Wow I never knew they paid it out like that...thought it was only on the table that it got hit!

However are those bad beat tables really worth it with the extra rake over the long run?

Aye, there's the rub, as Shakespeare said. I don't think so is my short answer. Longer answer is that before Cereus took over AP and UB, the play caliber of play on UB seemed better, at least at the lower limit JP tables. Not anymore, IMHO. I think you need to be really careful so that Cereus doesn't become a huge money pit while you seek the illusive JP.

If, however, your style of play suits the JP games that are spread and you can make a profit, I'd say go for it. Winning a piece of the JP would then just be like an unexpected bonus.

I tend to agree, not doing any math because I don't feel like it, but if you are paying extra rake on a given limit for the jackpot, compared to a table that doesn't offer the jackpot, then I would say it's not worth it.

However, if the rake is the same and the house just eats the rake for the badbeat, then a bad beat table would be worth it.

Now I've never played the jackpot tables or really much on UB at all. But, if more fish tend to play on the jackpot tables rather than the regular tables, then there is a possibility you would have a higher win rate on the jackpot tables even with the higher rake. Which would make the Jackpot tables more profitable to play on, with the chance of also hitting a big score via a BB jackpot.

Interesting question, only way to really know would be to play 50k hands or so on each table type and compare the data. And 50k hands would just give you an idea, but that's probably not even enough hands to accurately compare the win rates between the two table types.

That does make it sound worth it... the bb jackpot is the bait to reel in the fish :P lol.

Very nice Grossberger...Congrats!

This is a great theory! I only have a limited BR on UB and have played minimal hands there, but this does really make a lot of sense....

I think once I clear my deposit bonuses at pokerstars and tilt I'm going to play a few hands at UB's jackpot tables and see how they fare compared to stars/tilts cash games in regards to profitability/fish etc.

Thanks for this thought!!!

Well I will just say this, I deposited $100 on Tuesday just to play the JP tables and get a share of any hit JP that is at the same rake. I threw BRM out the window on this one because the minimum limit you can play for is .25/.50 nl or .50/1.00 limit. Now since my deposit on Tuesday I have went from $100 to $320 and it just seems really easy I tried playing .25/.50 on pokerstars and lost $75 in 1/2 hr playing exactly the same as on Ultimate Bet.

Now as far as the extra rake I never really gave that thought but I was talking to a guy that said he plays pretty much at least one of every table limit so if the JP is hit he gets a portion no matter what, and yes when he said that I checked and he was at at least 10 tables of different limits. He said he makes like 500-600 extra dollars a month just by getting a share each time its hit. Now that I'm not sure about and I will say this though I won 28.95 twice due to being on 2 tables, the amount was a little lower because 2 hours prior the JP had been hit at a .50/1.00 nl table and the jackpot was at least 400k so the JP was down to around 103k when it was hit again, I'm guessing that the share to toher tables was probably like 50-60 something each. Another thing to keep in mind even the players at the table it was hit get the portion also, because when it was hit it said that the winner (loser of the hand) got whatever it was the winner of the hand got whatever it was and the other people got 1028.95 and the others at the table it was hit on normally get $1000 which means they also got part of the share.

congrats, i have been at the tables when it has hit but at wrong limits, a pleasant suprise at the time for you i bet, i see other peeps playing non-jackpot tables is the rake lower on them?