Interesting group on Final Table of $5mil guar.

Prob most have read about/heard about the number of micro players & randoms on the final table of the $5mil guar. 5th Anniv. on Stars (ie. stuff like the $3 avg. buyin player blurting out he wanted a ridiculous extra $150k at the last second, etc. etc.). Couple guys had played decent volume of low buyin SNG's but not many MTTs at all.

One in particular, zeurr (<sp?) was chip leader coming onto the final table, was given an extra $5k during the deal by the guy who ended up taking down the tourney (winning the Lambo), the one player left in the tourney who was actually an Excellent MTT player.

Anyways, just read something a bit controversial about this player.

here's a link to a Dutch newspaper... seems this guy was posting on some forum at the time, announcing what place he was sitting in & then that he was now on the Final Table!!! Also turns out this guy is only 17yrs. old!!

here's the link
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1531/Poker/ar...-miljoen.dhtml

zeurr, the dutch guy, wasnt chipleader coming into the FT.
Anyway, he was the one who wanted a bunch more when trying to get to a deal.
Summarizing the article, this guy was chatting at PokerCity.nl and used a nick there, of a 17 year old boy.
If he was indeed playing himself,PS will probably not pay the prizemoney, because of his age.
In the article the father of the boy claims ,he was playing, instead of his son, so the father would be the real winner.
To be continued I guess...

what a complete moron

so he was playing under his dads details but then told a forum that it was him playing and he's 17

way to throw away 1/2 a mil

so silly!

did you watch him play?

horrible horrible player

some of the players at that final table where so so bad it aint funny

the sunday mill is just a shove fest, rubbish structure... plenty of donks at the final table

he was one of them

Well, according to the newspaper the account on PokerCity belongs to the boy and he was chatting litterally (translated from dutch):

"I am 4/9."

And later:

"Dear forum members,first of all thanks for the support and congrats.
I hope I made everybody proud.
After the deal I have won $518204,33 (after a $2 satelite).
For the lamborghini I just went gambling, too bad I didn't make it but still 6th place."

Personally, I wouldn't take time to chat if I was playing a FT of the SM.
However, if I was watching my dad and would chat, I wouldn't chat like I was playing myself.
The account obv has to be on his father's name or he opened an account providing false info or the newspaper is wrong about his age.
I'm curious where this ends.

Quiet clearly the son was playing under his dad's details, all my mates did it.
Whether PS can prove it wasn't his dad playing is another story though.

As for donks being on the final table, the amount of luck involved in FTing a massive tourny like that is unreal, and so the chances of good players making it to the FT is very low. They winner must have survived atleast 5 coinflips = 3% chance of winning them all.

Yah, quite a few weren't the greatest. The two guys that were chatting a bit together (zeurr & syndrome) were/are both SNG players... zeurr actually has around 8,000 sng's with a +roi ($11 bi), the other had some volume too was a marginally losing player (av bi $27) roi-1%.
No... I didn't/don't look them all up. I've got pokerprolabs software, and all player's stats. are always displayed for all games (w filters), even while observing. And yes... some of them were reallllly bad. (eventual winner though had previous 'profits' on Stars of over $1.25 mil.,.... he (or was it 'she'?? was clearly the best player... good to see him get the Lambo).

Wonder if the kid loses his 1/2mil.? I think it was PokerCity where he was posting on an account with the name jiminho3.. something like that. Picturing him all excited during the chop, updating the thread about what position he was in. Talk about stupid.

they should give him the money regardless, if he's underage, fair play to him, most are trying for years to ft sun million, and he comes along and does it. i watched it and thought it was so funny when he was asked had he his chat on. all the others had agreed to the deal at that stage. i was doing ok in it and my computer crashed, got it back after an hour and had 187 chips left, lol

This was one of the weakest Sunday Million final tables I have ever seen. To see them make a deal so soon really took the fun out of me watching. I was like all that money to be made and you dealing now and at the time the chip leaders gap was so far from the others there's no way I would have agreed!

the chip leader had like 30bb's

it was bingo with 9th getting 47k and first 1.6mil

no way i'd be gambling for that kind of change, if i was the chip leader i would of snap accepted the 810k+ he got offered in the deal

True! Now this was a great move for the chip leader wrzr123 it was win win for him. But my point was the rest of the table let the smallest chip guy ask for the deal and get it even know one player objected but was pressured to agree. I mean it took like 40 mins to make the deal! By looking at the play I woulda took out the 2 bottom stacks then talked of a deal. But hey I wasn't there and I can only assume how I would have acted. lol

lol...no i didn't watch him play,I honestly thought the guy was a good player....actually you could write a book about how good they are,you know going all in with TQ,9T,KT and cards like that...and those players are still winning tournaments :/

Stacks were not deep. ie. even the biggest stack... he loses a flip & then gets coolered, he's now the smallest stack or maybe even out with $41k. Pretty easy choice to chip imo.

Often it'd be correct to get it in with all the hands you've posted here (& many, many more). Pretty sure most of them were decent at SS play, considering the one guy had played over 8,000 sng's and was decent at them,& another was a well-known profitting MTT player.
It was also WinnerTakeAll after the deal was made which will have a bit of an effect on the play obviously.