Full Tilt Reimbursement

Hi folks,
I just got an email from Full Tilt to let me know that I had a small reinbursement because...

"The Full Tilt Poker Security department has recently concluded an extensive investigation and we have determined that some of your opponents were in violation of our site terms.

We have permanently closed all of the offending accounts. In cases of proven cheating, 100% of the confiscated funds are returned to the players who were victimized. The reimbursement calculation is based on the number of tournaments or hands played against the offending players, and the amount won or lost against them."

Nice to know there is a little justice in the world.

Nice to hear. Glad you got some $$ back.

Bad part is the increase in reports of refunded $$ over discovery of more cheating players. ...

Would be nice to know which ones and when. That could/might explain some of the prior posts about how certain hands turned out against you so often.

I do remember several times, where the table just felt kinda funny, ya know? Like people were protecting each other's hand, or like I was being raised and re-raised out of the pot. Stuff like that. It would have been nice to know which games were compromised.

Ya know Nick, December was a really, REALLY bad month. Not only were people outdrawing me, now I find out people were also cheating!!!!!!! Talk about a double whammy.

Outdrawn + cheating = really crappy month.

The bankroll took a major beating, but the funny part is, I did NOT go broke. I played way under BR requirements and made sure I had at least 100 buy-ins before i moved up. If I followed traditional BR rules i would have busted out a long time ago.

hummm did you complain or something? I didnt know FT support gave reimbursements... lol.

A number of the sites reimburse when cheaters are uncovered and investigations are complete.

It usually happens after someone reports suspicious play and they investigate. They try to determine which pots were involved in the cheating and which player lost because of it. The bigger sites also have programs that recognize suspicious play and the security divisions investigate. It's similar to the functions that the IRS in the States uses to spit out irregular patterns or circumstances, and it triggers an investigation.

It doesn't have to be the player who reports it to be the one receiving funds. They will refund all players who were cheated.

this why i dont play online that much anymore i too worried about people cheating and gettin robbed. i play on pokerstars because i think pokerstars has better security and i got my cashout check quickly.but pokerstars has so many players its got to be hard to keep track of everything that occurs. good for you lizzy and if you suspect cheating at ur table come get me ill beat em up for u!

really there is no reason to get so hot about poker...just a game...that i make money at..

I reported two players I thought were chip dumping on pokerstars. It didn't affect me, I won the double or nothing tourney it was in. Poker pokerstars sent me an email stating they found proof that they were colluding and reimbursed players that were affected after closing their accounts and taking their money to pay back the players they cheated.
It is always a good idea if you suspect cheating to report it. I don't mean if you get a bad beat, that happens. Poker pokerstars stated that since I won I woudn't be getting any money. I knew this in advance, I was looking at all of the other players they were cheating. It was a 5.00 buy in, not too expensive but expensive enough. I kept their names and noticed they were in more tourneys together.

its good to know that the cheating accounts were closed and his funds confiscated, and you got your money back even if you didnt know about those cheaters
i feel so safe playing at full tilt

I'm grateful I got some money back, but it kinda makes me wonder how many people get away with it? Ya know? I mean there were several times, where I was at the tables with a really, really eerie feeling. I guess that is my cheater detector going off.

Sounds great, good for FTP. Now if the can share ISP, banking information and personal info with other sites to make it harder to grab new ID's and there back in business at other sites.

makes me wounder how much cheatin is really goin on in online poker and what they are doin to protect the integraty of tha game... what stakes were these at that they were cheatin

that is nice of them to give back when people cheat against you rather then them just collecting off it

This too makes me wonder how much cheating is going on. To be honest I haven't heard of much cheating online, except for the AB/UB scandal. I guess I'm being naive. I've had experiences in tournaments where there were some very odd all-ins and calls. It is good to know the sites are monitoring this on their own and not just when someone submits a claim of suspicious activity.

Thanks for the post,its nice to know that our interests are being looked after by FT

Lazmansa

Good result for you then
good to get all the cheaters out of the game and nice to know that full tilt are offering that reimbursmant (sorry about spelling) to all the victims.
Gl luck on the tables in the future and my respect for full tilt as a site has just gone even higher
adsthepro

I've just had the exact same mail from Full Tilt. And the money has already been reimbursed to my account.

Great that they catch cheats (sometimes) and give the cash back, but prior to this I thought I was just being paranoid. So many times something felt wrong...

A lot of people are in the 'online poker is rigged' brigaid...but the bigger issue and clearly a very real issue is cheating players. I'd love to know the details of the cheating but FT don't give any further info....

Wonder how much more money I'm truly owed...

FT has always been awesome about this. I had someone hack my account once and even though FT at first said they couldnt do anything about it in the end they got my whole roll back for me.

That's pretty awesome!!

Thats why Fulltilt and Pokerstars are the best. I have heard of them both doing this.

Just had my second reimbursment from FT. That's two inside two weeks.

Nice they are catching them but this is worrying.

I play quite a lot of 6max SNGs, and I'm guessing this is where it happens. The short handed single table must be ideal for the cheats to team up.

Again, nice one FT...but these players should be named!!! I'd at least like confirmation of the circumstances to help me spot it more easily, but sadly FT won't elaborate.

They probably wont elaborate because there is really no need to. Once they get caught they are usually banned from the site and then you dont have to worry about playing agianst them anymore.

That's great news for you. I know I would be extremely happy to receive money back into my account after I lost it at the tables. Congratulations!

I've never been shipped $'s due to cheaters being caught on any of the tables I've played on (even though I've reported a few & have received emails saying they'd been dealt with... collusion was blatant... they were obvious donks because they were colluding right in the chat box).

Now if Fulltilt would just start shipping back funds for all of the damn disconnects happening over the past while.... arghh!

Nice to hear you got some cash back. Unfortunately it does not happen that way as often as it should.

Poker Orifice, re disconnects - very true.... and is it just me or do the disconnects only happen when you're holding the nuts against a fish!!? Last time I was all set to double up and take the chip lead, half my stack in and opponent shoves on me, I press to call and................................no response.

AAAAAAAAAAARGH! hate that. Checked my net connection, all was fine, just FT! Suppose that's another downside of online play but it's hard to take.

Does FT send you an e-mail or do they just put it in your account? I checked mine the other day and there was a little bit more in there than I thought. I just figured it was something I forgot I won (money is not one of the things I tend to forget in my OA. Ha) Now I wonder.

re disconnects i wonder how often that happens i to had the nuts and had 60% in and press to call and no response my net conection was fine also its a real game wrecker

Yes, SNGs are perfect for colluders.

wow, what a great new, the other night i was reading some articles about 10 accounts are collunding, thats happened on pokerstars and they made the same, they send some dollars to the accounts victims, this are greats news because i guess always we play with some cheaters. GL to all and hope the rooms make and extense investigations to all the possible cheaters..

Thats good news and glad you got your money back. I have never gotten any back because my poker coach says you gotta win some first. I'm like a woman. Spend spend spend. Log off, toss turn, get up and have a good breakfast and then spend spend spend some more. Oh well. I don't spend that much, but enjoy the challenges. Good luck to you on down the road.