Full tilt or Pokerstars for SNGs

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  #1
24th June 2009, 1:36 PM
salami1212
 
Full tilt or Pokerstars for SNGs

Hi, Well I have a pokerstars and fulltilt account, im going to deposit $110 for 20 buy ins at $5.50 sit and goes and hopefully move up limits. Im wondering which site is the best for sit and goes and which has the softest competition. I dont have rakeback on fulltilt but I might try and ask full tilt for rakeback.. Cheers
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  #2
24th June 2009, 2:19 PM
damon789
 
Plays at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by salami1212
Hi, Well I have a pokerstars and fulltilt account, im going to deposit $110 for 20 buy ins at $5.50 sit and goes and hopefully move up limits. Im wondering which site is the best for sit and goes and which has the softest competition. I dont have rakeback on fulltilt but I might try and ask full tilt for rakeback.. Cheers
Hey Salami, 20 buyins might be a little lean IMHO but if you get off to a good

start, you might be ok. General consensus suggests 40 buyins is probably a little

better. The $3 STTs on pokerstars might be ok with that Bankroll.

Stars and Fulltilt are much of a muchness personally ive done better on FT

than Stars but i just put that down to variance. One thing about FT vs Stars

is FT doesnt have antes at 100/200 where as pokerstars does so adjustment in

strategies needed there GL.
  #3
26th June 2009, 1:59 AM
keaton
 
Plays at: fulltilt
Game: holdem
20 buy-ins is fine to start out with, if you can redeposit. I started with $100 on Hollywood Poker, and never had to deposit again. However, if this is your only money for poker, I would start at a lower level.

If you are going to play turbos play on Stars. If full or 6 max regular speed, I would play on Full Tilt.
  #4
26th June 2009, 3:57 AM
Poh2805
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Poker stars is pretty good for Sit n Goes purely because of the fact that you can FOLD even when you should check.
Also their sit and goes are more varied.
  #5
27th June 2009, 2:54 AM
2tall
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: N.L. Holdem
I like fulltilt for sit n' goes the blinds are structures are better.
  #6
27th June 2009, 7:11 AM
jdeliverer
 
Plays at: FTP
Game: NLHE now
PokerStars has better traffic from my experience, which is pretty important for tournaments.
  #7
27th June 2009, 11:54 AM
kevkojak
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: holdem
re: Full tilt or Pokerstars for SNGs

I tend to favour Full Tilt for SnG's at the lower levels, they have less choice of games (no stud, very little razz and stud, no HOSE etc) but far more variations of what there is. i.e. omaha and Hold Em in 6,9,18,27 seat etc.
Once you get to $5 though, both sites are very similar. Stars have a lot of $1 games, then not much else 'till $5. There are a few $3 but the play isn't excellent.
Maybe try the $5 double or nothing games, could put an easy 25% on your bankroll once you've played the 20 games.
  #8
27th June 2009, 6:12 PM
toogood2k
 
Plays at: FULLTILT
Game: Holdem,Omaha
sng probleably better is ftp, becouse Pokerstars is tournament poker and there is maaaaany those tournaments, and not so many low/high sng`os. i prefer better ftp.
  #9
28th June 2009, 10:23 AM
Gorblid
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Holdem
both the same, I suggest to flip a coin
  #10
28th June 2009, 9:53 PM
Grinderinoz
 
Game: Holdem
Either or.

I'd play with a few more buy ins - if you have a downswing early on you'll still feel comfortable with a large portion of your bankroll still intact.
  #11
28th June 2009, 9:59 PM
trewtrew
 
Plays at: Full tilt
Game: Omaha Hi/lo
Im not too sure about pokerstars as i rarely play their, but i can tell u that the oppostion at $5 SNGs on Full Tilt is extremely weak that by just playing ABC poker u could easily cash in these SNGs 2/3 times (given cold decks and variance etc.)
  #12
29th June 2009, 12:02 AM
crow27
 
Plays at: pokerstars
Game: NL
I've played both. I haven't played on FT for awhile but at the micro levels, ($5 and under) most of the time I found the play at FT totally rediculous. I think too many of them tried to learn by watching T.V. Things I saw were all ins with 6 9s after a raise from UTG and a reraise from the button, then thinking he was right to move all in on a bluff.(when he sucked out, the ends justifies the means kind of players) Just dumb shit like that.

While the play on pokerstars micro isn't much better, most of the players seem to have atleast a better grasp of poker. Not quite so much overly agressive play. (to the point of stupidity)

Just my opinion, but I like playing on Stars better, even though I think FT would be more profitable for a decent player.
  #13
2nd July 2009, 2:40 PM
unchosen
 
Plays at: fulltilt
Game: NL Holdem
I would defently choose full tilt over pokerstars for SNGs because on pokerstars there is not a lot of low stake SNGs and full tilt has a wide variety of SNGs for you to participate in.
  #14
2nd July 2009, 4:40 PM
Zorba
 
Plays at: PS,BD,FT,TIT
Game: NL Holdem
re: Full tilt or Pokerstars for SNGs

I'm not to sure how their S'n'G's are but their ring games are just full of aggressive idiots, if their S'n'G's are anything like the ring games I would recommend Poker Stars.
  #15
2nd July 2009, 4:48 PM
sharkyo01
 
Plays at: Fulltilt
Game: Hold em
Well i played both and much preferred FT over PS. Seem to win on FT and not PS.

Plus the graphics and format of FT is hell of alot better then PS.
  #16
2nd July 2009, 4:58 PM
Zorba
 
Plays at: PS,BD,FT,TIT
Game: NL Holdem
Graphics, what have the silly cartoon like graphics got to do with it, actually that is one of the reasons I dont play there much, they hurt the eye's.....
  #17
2nd July 2009, 9:40 PM
sharkyo01
 
Plays at: Fulltilt
Game: Hold em
Set up ur table view differently then !!! I do not see much of the cartoon characters any more
  #18
2nd July 2009, 10:02 PM
john003
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Game: Mainly NLHE
I started on PokerStars, its where I stayed. Tried FT once and all the cartoon avatars got on my nerves!

That's just my opinion though, don't take my word for it. =P
  #19
3rd July 2009, 5:30 AM
andosalado
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: holdem
I 've done better on full tilt than on pokerstars. I'm not sure if there's a particular reason for that, is just a fact.
  #20
6th July 2009, 9:05 PM
PLO1519
 
Plays at: pokerrstars
Game: Hold'em
Quote:
Originally Posted by salami1212
Hi, Well I have a pokerstars and fulltilt account, im going to deposit $110 for 20 buy ins at $5.50 sit and goes and hopefully move up limits. Im wondering which site is the best for sit and goes and which has the softest competition. I dont have rakeback on fulltilt but I might try and ask full tilt for rakeback.. Cheers
My suggestion since your just starting out would be to play on FullTilt. They'll have plenty of games to choose from at the lower limits, and you'll have an opportunity for up to 27% rakeback, which is really helpful when you're just starting out. If you havn't made an account on FTP yet, go to a site like thisisthenuts.com and register through them to get rakeback, its SO helpful.
  #21
6th July 2009, 9:30 PM
5TR8 FLUSH
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Game: holdem
re: Full tilt or Pokerstars for SNGs

I prefer pokerstars because I happen to run better than on FTP. I do well on both but I just enjoy playing on pokerstars more, I don't really like the way some people play on FTP. If I where you i'll stick to the $3.25 SNG's on pokerstars, besides you got rake back on pokerstars why not start a BR on there. I think if you dep. $50 on pokerstars you get $50 for free if you put the code stars50. BEST OF LUCK TO YOU
  #22
7th July 2009, 5:12 PM
kingkowboys
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Full Tilt has a wider variety of SnGs than PS. PS also has alot more sharks at the mid level buyin MTT and SnGs than FullTilt from what i've seen and heard from other people. I would suggest what others have said about starting with a deeper BR.
  #23
7th July 2009, 5:46 PM
ludo90
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Omaha
if you are to deposit thinking like you are , you should atleast (acourding on what ive read on Pokerstrategy etc) always have 30 buyins.
If u can do this i suggest you do .. You will also receive a larger bonus then which isnt bad at all during your "down swings"!
In the choice of which poker room id say SnGs definately FT because of their grafic is much more what can i say.. I atleast focus ten times better at FT then stars. And i would also say the opponents are better in Stars considering the ammount.
Although if u were to also do some tournaments at the side you should go for pokerstars 100% .. Gaining a good bankroll by SnG is hard ive tried alot of times failed misrebaly i must always do different things such as go CG/tournys.
Back to why you should choose pokerstars now , their tournaments is better in all ways. It is ALOT more to choose from and alot more all day long .. Bigger price pools etc etc, The list goes long of what pokerstars can create whit a bigger atmosphere.

My opinion // Ludo
  #24
7th July 2009, 6:02 PM
laceypearls
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: Holdem
I personally Like Pokerstars over full tilt poker anyday. I think that would be a good site for buy in's. I wish your luck in building your bankroll.
  #25
7th July 2009, 9:43 PM
pokerfan19
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkyo01
Well i played both and much preferred FT over PS. Seem to win on FT and not PS.

Plus the graphics and format of FT is hell of alot better then PS.
Yea, i tend to do better over at FT than at PS.
  #26
7th July 2009, 11:18 PM
kidkvno1
 
Plays at: Ultimatebet
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorba
I'm not to sure how their S'n'G's are but their ring games are just full of aggressive idiots, if their S'n'G's are anything like the ring games I would recommend Poker Stars.
At FT, hummmm would they be playing, like it is play money
Poker pokerstars seams great, for games.. If you get on late, at night there is more tight play, going on.
  #27
8th July 2009, 2:04 AM
TxMaxx
 
Plays at: Poker Stars
Game: holdem
FT is much softer at the lower limits, I dislike their tables the software sucks and it can take time to get into a game. PS has better levels, better software but tougher players overall and you can get in a game instantly.
  #28
8th July 2009, 2:23 AM
TriggaLos
 
Plays at: Poker Stars
Game: Holdem
re: Full tilt or Pokerstars for SNGs

Quote:
Originally Posted by COVID2
I sugest, you play at pokerstars, at full tilt play too much fishes, but good luck, all dependes about your game..
Think I'd rather play fishes, this is where you make all the money. LDO!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by unchosen
I would defently choose full tilt over pokerstars for SNGs because on pokerstars there is not a lot of low stake SNGs and full tilt has a wide variety of SNGs for you to participate in.
I think you are confused. Stars has way more SnG's and they fill way faster than the ones on Full Tilt.

Quote:
Originally Posted by langrealtor
I enjoy playing on ftp more. The games seem to be more interesting and the players are better. On pokerstars it seems in the initial stages everyone goes all in. Not much strategy there.
Again, you want to play against bad players. Why? Because you have an advantage over them!!!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Poh2805
Poker pokerstars is pretty good for Sit n Goes purely because of the fact that you can FOLD even when you should check.
Also their sit and goes are more varied.
This Post makes no sense at all??? Why would you ever fold if you can check??


OP, Stars has a lot more SnG's and they fill quickly no matter what time of day. I suggest Stars for that reason and due to the fact the rake is a little lower.
  #29
8th July 2009, 5:17 AM
slicky111
 
Plays at: Absolute Pok
Game: NL Holdem
My take. I say split your BR in half and deposit on both sites. On PokerStars with your $55 play 6 $5 double or nothing games. Playing 1 every other day. And on Full-Tilt it's your choice, cause they do have alot lower limit games.

For me, I like them both for different reasons, so, I play on both. Both sites are good, and a decent player should make money on both sites.
  #30
8th July 2009, 5:32 AM
goborage
 
Plays at: Fulltilt
Game: NL Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2tall
I like fulltilt for sit n' goes the blinds are structures are better.
Ignore this guy. PS has 10 min blind lvls vs FTP's 6 min. Turbos are 5 min vs 3 min.

If you're planning on playing micro SNGs, FTP with rakeback is waaaaaay better than PS.
  #31
9th July 2009, 10:28 PM
andosalado
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: holdem
There's another difference in the micro limit sitngos: on full tilt the way in wich the blinds advance is better distributed than on pokerstars. Playing on pokerstars i realized that because i was almost always on all-in situations when there was still many people in the game.

There's 10 min blind, yes but in the higher stages the jump is very high:
100/200(25 ante) 200/400 300/600,400/800 etc.
  #32
10th July 2009, 3:03 AM
shortshanks
 
Plays at: Bodog
Game: NL Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poh2805
Poker pokerstars is pretty good for Sit n Goes purely because of the fact that you can FOLD even when you should check.
Also their sit and goes are more varied.
I don't play Stars yet... What does this mean? Completely confused...
  #33
10th July 2009, 5:06 PM
TriggaLos
 
Plays at: Poker Stars
Game: Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by shortshanks
I don't play Stars yet... What does this mean? Completely confused...

On pokerstars the fold button is always an option. So if everyone checked to you, or you are first to act in a pot you can fold whenever you want. On Full Tilt, if it's checked to you or you are first to act. The fold button isn't an option. You can only check or bet. Which you should do, you should never fold when you can see a free card.

However, some people will play suited junk. Lets say they have suited hearts, like J2 of hearts or something stupid. They are in early position and limp. They are able to see the flop cheap. Now the flop come 3h Tc Ah. Now they have a flush draw. They check, guy in LP bets, they call, turn brings Qc. Again, they check, guy bets, they call. River brings 6d. They missed and if they check, the guy in LP could be confused and check. Then you would have to show that you called all the way to the river with J2 of hearts. So, on Poker Stars on the river you are first to act, you can fold, just like in a live game, you can fold at any time, doesn't mean it's the right move. On Full tilt, you would have to check and hope the guy in LP bets so you can fold.

So when someone folds out of position when they could check, you already know they are playing junk that missed the board or they where chasing a draw that missed. So folding when you can check doesn't really do you any good. Also lets say 2d came on the river instad of the 6d. Now you have bottom pair, you still think you are beat, but lets say you check, and the guy in LP figures you have an A and are going to call, while he was semi bluffing on a straight draw with KJ. Now if you check and he checks, you win the pot.

I'm not saying never fold when you can check. But, you should be checking 99.99% of the time instead of folding.

Last edited by TriggaLos : 10th July 2009 at 5:11 PM.
  #34
12th July 2009, 3:32 AM
NFLD_REBEL
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Try Pokerstars $5 double up SNG's. It a easier way to build up your bankroll. The winnings you make from them you can buy into larger MTT's.
 



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