Full Tilt Poker Sitouts

Well I'm not sure if this is the right section for this to go in, so dont flame me. On fulltilt there's normally one person atleast who just sits out and folds. I think fulltilt needs to do something about it, there has been plenty of times where the final two have been me and somebody who is'nt even there. What do you guys think?

Moved to Playing Poker (that other section is for questions about Cardschat the site).

In answer to your question, I don't have a problem with people not being there. They are usually quite easy to bluff

Why would that be bad? The heads-up match would be pretty easy IMO.

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And furthermore, where on FT are these easy games where you only have to beat a sitout to win ? Are we talking SNGs ? What buyin ? I think I`d like some of that action.

Probably play money

I agree with you I hate it when people are not there. You will start to bet bigger just to get it over with, and bet even the bad hands then all of sudden they are back and you are too far in to fold. That is my biggest pet peve.

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One time this guy sat out the whole game, and when i have AK he quicky comes back and pushes all in..i lost vs AA

I play on alot of sites and they all have sitouts. I don't mind it most times. But what I really hate is when you have someone that goes allin numerous times builds his stack up then siout for the next hour. Retarded if you ask me.

I thought part of learning to play poker and getting better was learning discipline as you play

sit outs are ok at the beginning of a tournament...like someone said they are easy to beat, but, when you have sat there for hours and just want to be done and they are sitting out it is annoying

Thats when you learn how to do it real fast, at PS, a sitout won't see his cards even when his BB is unraised, so all you have to do is call, and you win if it is just the two of you.
At FT, a sitout in the bb will see his hand so there you would want to min raise.
Before the ban, at Party Poker, I can remember going an hour, till the first break, just stealing blinds at empty tables.

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I totally agree with what your saying. There has been several times I've been in a tourney at full tilt and the players are not there. Then when it's down to the final's the end up winning.. I was out beaten the other day by 2 players who were not there. I was so pissed I was out and there in the final.

It's a shame when a sit-out can make it further than you .
I will be sitting out for the first half hour or so of todays freeroll so make sure I don't make it further than you do today jk
Good-luck to all in today's freeroll

I agree on both counts.

I don't think sit-outs should be allowed to win at all. It's not fair to the other actual players. I've been in lots of games where a sit-out person wins either in 3rd or 4th. Just makes you wanna go GRRR.

I really get annoyed when people do the constant all ins because I wanna call but don't if I don't have a great hand. BUt I guess it does get the donk's out early so in a way it's all good.

All in all it's okay at the end since I'm playing for points. If I was playing for real money it'd be totally different.

You can't "win" if you sit out.

in a normal trny, just to sit-out is a silly idea. you never get ITM. sometimes it´s a good idea to sit-out in the beginning and all the donkeys are out. but U wil surely never win a trny....

you will never "win" if you sitout, but you could get 2nd, or 3rd. i think it's a great strategy and should be used to your advantage both if you are the one sitting out or if you are at a table w/many people sitting out.

actually, i remember once, i was at a table where 2 of us were in and the other 7 or 8 were all "sitting out". so we just played as fast as we could and split every other pot, taking the blinds and the antes. eventually, a 3rd person came back, but we had taken tons of chips in the meanwhile.

Losing to someone that deploys this kind of strategy hurts for sure but come on, if someone sits out the early stages of a tournament ( when the blinds are small relative to the stacks, ie large "M's") and then 'wakes up' with a large re-raise to your initial preflop raise late-on or around the bubble stage, what are you going to do? Call? All-in? Even with a good but not the best hand.

Is poker not a game of incomplete information? And have you not been given the missing piece?

Sure he/she could be bluffing, but does their play up until then indicate that? Would it not be better to let a bluff go than go out of the tourney and resent someone else for your own mistakes. (yes and I have been there myself)

Much of the problem of playing against this strategy is to do with awareness of the table and players, and an honest evaluation of your own hand in my view.

Yes Full Tilt allows people to sitout and still place but they don't allow them to enter the pot for free. You do.

there is one thing to be learned from a sitter that beats you....you played to many hands

It's no different to Vinnie Vinh at this year's WSOP - his empty chair cashed in one event