Full Tilt no longer supporting Windows 2000

Last May I got messages every time I logged on to Full Tilt saying I would still be able to play, but they will no longer offer support for my operating system (Windows 2000). Now, 3 months later, I downloaded their software update as usual. After the download, I get an error message...."FullTiltPoker.exe-Entry Point Not Found".
I deleted the program and reinstalled Full Tilt, but get the same message. I haven't been able to play there in a week.
I emailed support, and they replied that there was nothing they could do. Anybody have any ideas except for getting a new computer? I can't afford one right now. I've heard that I might be able to install Windows XP.

i had the same issue, my solution was to cash out from full tilt and go to pokerstars

the have alienated all win2k users, and no i dont want to upgrade to xp because i would have to spend money and lots of time reinstalling all my programs

full tilt is dumb

you should be able to just download a new OS, however depending on how old your computer is I'd be worried about how much RAM you have, how good your processor is, etc. If you have a desktop those are easy to upgrade but it's harder to do in a laptop, especially if it's a lot older.

If you are running Windows 2000 you just need a new computer period. Forgetting the fact that your computer has to be a relic, Windows itself stopped supporting 2000 July 13, 2010
http://support.microsoft.com/ph/1131#tab0

There are very cheap alternatives with powerful computers both in laptop and desktop versions. You will prolly find your poker tables will run much better and you will have more security using a newer OS.

Good Luck

I had the same problem. I bought a new computer. I have BR and was able to get the one I wanted, but I sometimes play in other locations and checked out cheaper alternatives and you can get all kinds of cheap alternatives. Used in ebay - and I mean many and not expensive - and depending on where you live check out the newspaper and other sources of private sellers. You should invest in your future if you can afford it by getting a machine that will serve you the next 10 years, but if you cant there are loads of possibilities.

...ask myself when this will happen with XP...!?

I like it a lot and do all my music with it,
so I like to keep it as long as possible.

Changes..., ...brrrr... ...

Just find a copy of XP and install it. XP will run on almost anything and is still supported for the next few years. Blah blah blah hours reinstalling crappy programs, answer don't install all those random programs you don't need.

Simple Upgrade would do the trick... Your keep all your old programs etc

That the reason that PokerStars still working with not advanced software. They afraid that they lose their customers that have a old computer.

I'm not real computer savvy. I know it's a dinosaur, but it has served my needs until now.
It's a Dell desktop.
Intel Pentium 4
CPU 2.80 GHz
AT/AT Compatible
522.228 KB RAM
I know someone who can give me a copy of XP.
Will it work?

FEARFACTOR, XP will work just fine on that thing. I have it running great on an ancient dell laptop at 2.0ghz and 256 megs of RAM. More ram would help but you'll be just fine.

*As for the upgrade option, I would never, ever in my life suggest that anyone ever install any OS at all as an upgrade, going from Windows 2000 to XP just go clean. It doesn't take much to backup files and reinstall programs, and most of those programs you should realize you don't need anyway.

Thanks for your help.
If I understand this right, an upgrade would replace my OS with XP without wiping out my existing programs? Does this create potential problems? I'm not sure how to do it either way.

Did I read this correctly? KB not MB?

LOL, I'm afraid so. I looked again and saw it's a comma, not a period, so it's 522,228 KB. I just found a conversion calculator online, and it said 522,228 KB = 509.988 MB. I thought you just divided by 1,000. Not sure why it didn't come out to 522.228 MB, but it's close enough.

If it's a comma then okay... 500MB Ram.

1 meg is 1,024kb so you're okay... I was just like really 522kb RAM? lol

500MB RAM is still low considering today's standards.

I have 8 GB RAM on my machine at home, but I'm also running a 64-bit version of XP Pro and 64-bit Windows 7. You could always buy a netbook too, depending on your computer needs they are decent for most applications $300 - $400. Only issue on most netbooks is that you cannot view the Full Tilt lobby in the view which will display Rush because the resolution was not sufficient for the program.

I read further, and 1 MB=1024 KB, so that explains it.

FEARFACTOR,

Yes upgrading is possible but it can create problems, you would essentially just be sticking XP right on top of 2000 (when going from things like SP1 to SP2 upgrading is fine, when upgrading to an almost completely different OS it is not recommended). It is always best to start clean. Back up all your documents, pictures, music, etc. then format the drive and install XP. Install all your programs and copy your backed up documents onto the computer.

* And I don't believe that every copy of XP has an upgrade option, but that might just be because I would never use it so never looked.

You could use Ubuntu (http://ubuntu.com) for free and run FullTilt through Wine (http://winehq.org). Though it isn't worth it if you don't want to spend some time learning a new operating system.

Jeez. I thought Iwas cheap.

I'm not cheap. I'm temporarily broke. There's a difference.

I actually run Xubuntu, but to play poker I have Virtualbox with a XP guest. Full Tilt and Pokerstars will "work" with wine, but any single update may break it and running a HUD through wine isn't as simple. Before switching to Xubuntu with an XP guest running the poker clients with Holdem Manager and postgresql in windows was using every bit of my 1 gig of ram. Now with postgresql running natively on the linux side and the poker clients and HEM running on the XP guest i save between 200-300 MBs of ram, and a lot less stress on the HDD since before it was using a lot of virtual ram.

If you want to try to run XP you can try to get to a version LastXP. It's a tweeked version of xp that is usually distributed at no cost.

I am going to PM you with a answer to your problems. I think this might work but it worth a try on this

never mind I just thought if it that if you still download a older version of full tilt you still have be required to download the updates to still play.

does anyone know if full tilt works with linixs.this might help him if it does

ok I got it.....you can use linix on your computer ( it free) then you have to use another program called Wine to run full tilt under linix.

New laptops these days are pretty cheap!
You can usually get great deals at Walmart.
OR.. buy through Dell (a friend of mine just picked up a new 17" Dell laptop and pays less than $25/mth).

The electronics recycling depot in my area has older laptops 1GB ram, WinXP that a person can pick up for free. Maybe there's something like that in your area?

Also there a sony viaos at best buy for $525.00

You really can't blame them for not supporting a 10-year old OS. 10 years is like 100 years in the computer world. As a developer myself, I know how costly it is to maintain compatibility with, and support of, legacy OSes. You seriously need to upgrade.

Honestly I wouldn't bother with XP either. Windows 7 runs so much better. PC's are cheaper than ever now, as are upgrade parts if you're savvy enough to upgrade your own. Win7 will run with 512K of RAM, although I don't recommend it (for that matter I wouldn't recommend XP with 512K either). If you can't buy new, and can't handle doing your own upgrades, consider buying an older, refurb PC. Dell has a refurb outlet, and there are many vendors that sell refurb PC's with XP Pro installed for cheap:

http://www.surpluscomputers.com/feat...sktop-pcs.html

It may run under Wine but would probably run better on VirtualBox or another VM solution running XP. However if you run HEM or PT3 your HUD won't work and importing HH's may be a manual process. In other words, it won't work nearly as well as on Windows.

Eeek...one sad thing you will discover. If you run other programs at all on the computer, you will find some do not run on XP that run on 2000, and for sure when you move up to Vista or 7 many of the programs cease to work and it makes you buy new ones.

That really pissed me off when I recently helped a friend who bought a Vista machine and had an XP. Greedy software manufacturers don't upgrade their programs and many make you buy brand new software if you change OS

I agree 100% I would much prefer Win 7 as my sole OS and would love to do away with XP on my machine. But unfortunately there's some compatibility issues with a lot of the music production software/hardware I run so I have to slave away with XP for now. But, if you got the choice Win 7 for sure.

Just double check and make sure which ever programs you need to reinstall will run in Win 7 with the Virtual XP.

Sucked when I backed everything up and formatted my hard drives and freshly installed Win 7 then find out Pro Tools LE8 won't work on Windows 7. So had to reinstall XP Pro on a separate HDD, it's not difficult or anything just time consuming. I had a problem for a while trying to figure out how to get the boot screen to display my options between booting Win 7 or XP when Win 7 was the primary OS, and then making sure it could boot XP because it always would say cannot find "boot.ini" when trying to boot XP it was a nightmare for a little while. Anyway, it's all under control now lol.

But, if you can go Windows 7, in my experience is a really stable OS, runs faster, and eats up a lot less memory than Vista or XP. Great OS IMO

2000 = 10 years ago. "temporarily" = 10 years?

Not trying to be a dick or anything, but there's a hard lesson to be learned here. There's been about 4 or 5 major Windows OS upgrades in the last 10 years. I'm guessing cheapness is the only reason for not jumping on one. I know you can easily upgrade to XP for under $100 now. A couple years ago, I was running XP on my Pentium 3 with 386 MB of RAM just fine and people here laughed at me. Plus I know you can even buy a cheap laptop for around $300 that'll out run your current machine.

People who have their hard drives crash usually learn the hard way about backing up. (I did.)

People who get destructive viruses usually learn the hard way about security software.

And people who don't upgrade their OS regularly usually learn the hard way about OS obsolescence. So what if you have to reinstall some other programs if you upgrade your OS or replace your machine? Just do it and you'll be glad you did. Cheers.

That's how you "stick" it to them.

I would actually say that running postgresql for HEM/PT3 on a linux host with an XP guest runs it all a lot better than on windows. Postgresql is native to linux and as such does not consume anywhere near the 200+ MBs of RAM that it does on XP.

XP runs just fine and is still being updated by Microsoft for a few more years. Windows 7 and Vista are resource hogs I wouldn't even suggest using either of them on a machine with less than 2 Gigs of ram.

Upgrading older PCs is easy, but as they get even older the parts become even more expensive and lots of OEM brand computers are pretty useless to try and upgrade anyway. Unless your computer is just a few years old and you bought good parts with room to upgrade, buying new is a lot of times easier and cheaper. You won't get your moneys worth upgrading a 10 yr old pc with a faster CPU, RAM, and harddrive and itll cost almost the same amount as buying all new parts.

Id say buy a gig of ram and install XP Pro, but it will run just fine with 512megs.

Thats why I like running linux, OS and all other software is free and mostly open source. Even for Windows there is generally an equivalent free open source program for all the big name programs. No need for MS Office, Open Office does all the same things for free. No need to spend tons of money on Adobe Photoshop when GIMP is free.


While I was still using Windows as my operating system I had given up on using any antivirus software at all and never was infected by a single virus for the 5-6 years Ive had this laptop. If you know what your doing and don't download and run random programs from the internet there is no reason you should ever be infected by a virus. Most of the viruses Ive removed from friends/family's computers over the last couple years have come from peer 2 peer programs or porn sites. If you have limewire or an equivalent on your computer your just asking for a virus.

[While I was still using Windows as my operating system I had given up on using any antivirus software at all and never was infected by a single virus for the 5-6 years Ive had this laptop. If you know what your doing and don't download and run random programs from the internet there is no reason you should ever be infected by a virus. Most of the viruses Ive removed from friends/family's computers over the last couple years have come from peer 2 peer programs or porn sites. If you have limewire or an equivalent on your computer your just asking for a virus.[/quote]

Score one for the MAC. no anti-virus needed. Got to love the MAC's