| This is a discussion on Finland To Ban Online Poker within the online poker forums, in the Poker Rooms section; First, Germany bans online poker now it looks like Finland is going to follow suit. It looks like countries are really starting to crack down ... |
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| Finland To Ban Online Poker First, Germany bans online poker now it looks like Finland is going to follow suit. It looks like countries are really starting to crack down on this. Hopefully the U.S keeps it legal for at least a little bit longer. |
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| i really dont understand this crap now if u ban online gaming,it is only fa1r that they close down every damn casino in the country it is just annoying now how these politicians just want to stop online poker, the only reason i see them doing this is that the dont make enough revenue in the form of taxs |
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| A smart government figures that their economy is losing money everyday because people are sending their money to these offshore, unregulated, untaxed, poker sites, instead of doing something productive to the economy like buying goods, services, entertainment/gambling from businesses which ARE regulated and taxed by the country. I think it's finally time to do away with unregulated online gaming before any sites can get a lot smarter and make their stealing more difficult to detect. Absolute Poker has been scamming its users for millions of dollars over the last 3 years, so please don't assume that the players can regulate it themselves. If we hadn't been fortunate enough to catch the breakthrough evidence, this would still be going on for many more years. And I don't doubt any possibility that any other site can be capable of cheating if they can easily get away with it. |
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| There is very little chance of a ban standing for long in either Germany or Finland. Both are members of the European Union and the EU is strongly opposed to protectionist measures which interfere with free trade between member states. The United Kingdom pretty much has the model which could and should become the norm. Gaming is licensed and regulated and poker sites are run by highly respectable corporations such as Virgin (first example that comes to mind). Virgin own an airline, a retail chain, a rail network, a TV network and all manner of other major businesses as well as the poker site. Surely that must be the way to go. If online poker is run by reputable companies, quoted on the Stock Market and taxed and regulated, it becomes very difficult for politicians or anyone else to table a valid objection to our hobby. It`s very difficult to see why America (and Germany, Finland, etc.)doesn`t follow that route. |
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| ^sounds more like the Russian revolution... and we all know how that turned out.. Don't believe all the bs that Absolute spoon feeds to everyone, they obviously are trying to cover it up and make it look like they are the victims along with the poker players. They have known for years the cheating was going on, which means the top people in the company were behind it since the very beginning. Now I can see why governments are a necessary evil... someones gotta protect the sheep from getting eaten by the wolves. |
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OK you two..this might be the single best idea I've heard in years! |
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I always knew it was possible the poker sites can easily take our money, but I didn't expect a big company like Absolute Poker to be so Absolutely stupid and careless, or too fast in their greed that they would make it so obvious they were cheating people out of their money in high profile tournaments/cash games, and then hand us the proof to convince us they were. Quote:
Absolute Poker has tried repeatedly to deny ANY possibility of cheating/superaccount using from the beginning, until someone got a hold of the breakthrough evidence and everyone could finally see the concrete proof, basically shoving the evidence in Absolute's face and making them admit they were guilty / there was cheating was going on. Every poker site might not be like Absolute Poker, just like every business in America isn't an Enron, but anytime you have no regulations, no audits from some governmental type authority, there is always a possibility someone is stealing wether they have been caught yet or not. Why not cheat and steal from the "sheep"? If you can get away with it, and not fear any punishment from any higher authority, why not just take the easy money? As long as you don't do it too fast, arouse any suspicions, or make it Absolute'ly obvious and give people the evidence, you would be just fine and dandy. The nearest I live to a brick and mortar casino is 1 1/2 hours, which is not a fun drive for me. I just hope we can get some regulated/audited poker sites. |
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Obviously, should that happen the sites will then be forced to ban Finnish players. |
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| Personally I think that the poker community should band together and start their own non profit poker site offshore (maybe an old abandoned oil rig in international waters with high speed satellite internet,) you could minimize rake, no government oversight or taxes, and have proven reputable players in charge with extensive oversight from the legitimate poker community. Don't know all of the legalities or cost involved with such an endeavor but I know I would love such a site. |
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| re: Finland To Ban Online Poker I believe there was a plan to do something very like Alexei`s suggestion on Sealand. Principality of Sealand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Last I heard, the place had been wrecked in a fire and all plans were on hold. |
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| how on earth do you ban someone from doing something on your PC. Sorry not possible. If I lived in germany, finland etc and OL poker was banned and I wanted to play - I would, easily. Id like to see them elaborate on how they could stop a person from playing. |
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| It wouldn't be that hard, force the ISPs to block gambling sites, force the credit card companies to not fund gambling sites, seize funds coming from gambling sites, monitor network traffic and aggressively pursue violators. That'd make it difficult and dangerous enough to make it unfeasible for the vast majority of players. Not that I support such Draconian measures but it's certainly possible. |
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[T]he scam has been going on for three years and the actual amount that was skimmed from online poker players is estimated at close to $7 million, not the 700k amount that was previously reported. quoted by Gambling 911.com END QUOTE I guess for some people, it's much easier to listen to Absolute poker and believe their every word than to actually take a few minutes and research some third party poker evidence and opinions. They obviously don't make enough in rake to overcome their greediness to not steal, and just run a legitimate business. If they could get away with it for 3 years, there is obviously little control or oversight the players have on the site. Quote:
Absolute has gone back to normal operation, because the people will just not care, be oblivious to what really happened, or they will quickly forget about the incident and continue playing at Absolute. Sad really, but thats just how human nature is. |
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And how would you even come to know about these sites that aren't blocked.... ... <_<.... >_>... |
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The Police were very clever in the way they handled it. Two officers (in plain clothes) borrowed one of our company vehicles and delivered the computer back to him, posing as our delivery men. They asked him to check the computer and sign for it. As soon as he had done so, they produced their ID and said, "Ok, since you confirm that this is your computer, we would like to hear your explanation of the indecent material on your hard drive, on account of we are Police Officers." |
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Its because you cant regulate the internet, exactly as you say. Its simply near-impossible. |
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Overall -EV for their gov't |
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