Earning FPP at micro limits

which tables/micro limits do you need to play at in order to earn FPPs?

I seldom play cash games only SNGs & MTTs. I play a few cash games
but very few FPPs

9 seat om h/l fl are the best for fpps, failing that, limit Razz and both of course during happy hour.

is there happy hour at Stars?

No, that's at tilt. I read somewhere they may be making some changes in how they calculate soon, but right now you don't get any fpp at a micro ring game until $8 pot...so all the rake you pay on smaller pots doesn't count.

At sng and mtt you may actually be getting a better deal than higher stakes though b/c of rounding. .10 rake = 1fpp, .20 = 1 fpp, I think you get 2fpp for .25 even though that should round down. .40 = 2fpp .50=3fpp.

fpps are just worth a fraction back on the rake you pay though, so don't go out of your way looking to pay more rake to get fpps . I guess 1.10, 2.75, 3.30, 6.50 are best deals for lowest rake/highest fpp at micros.

No 'happy hour' on Stars. If you play micro stakes - no FPP's. Here is the awards breakdown from their VIP program page, which you can find at: http://www.pokerstars.com/fpp/

1. Earn FPP credits for cash game play

First Frequent Player Point (FPP) is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches:
$0.40 for fixed limit poker games with stakes $1/$2 and lower
$0.40 for NL/PL poker games with blinds $1/$2 and lower
$0.40 for "1-on-1" poker games (this applies only to "1-on-1" tables, not to regular tables which have only two players seated)
$1.00 for all other games

Second FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches:
$2.00 for all 6-max tables (this doesn't apply for games being played 6- handed at 10/9/8 player tables - just 6-max tables)
$3.00 for all other tables

Third FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches $5.00.

what about NL 5c/10c? any FPPs?

At 5c/10c you will get an FPP if the rake on a pot is 40c.

Don't be too disappointed about no FPP's at micro limits and those offered at Full Tilt Happy Hour. FT doesn't even have micro limit tables.

Full Tilt gives their points away like water. By comparison, a logo baseball cap on Stars is 600 FPP's. On Full Tilt, their logo cap is 4,000 points.

A Stars 10 FPP tourney has a $500 cash payout to a standard prize structure, held numerous times each and every day. Full Tilt's 20 FPP (the lowest fpp buy-in I know of) pays ONE ticket to a satellite to another tourney. Any (few) added prizes are in more FPP's, not in cash. Higher FPP buy-ins on FT give you ONE entry to another satellite, but even MORE FPP's for less than 1st place.

If you're a 'micro stakes' player with a small bankroll, there are no magic formulas for striking it rich with FPP's. At least at Stars FPP games they pay in cash, not more points. There are bigger FPP buy-ins on the weekends and they pay even larger cash prize pools, not points.

Nothing 'wrong' with Full Tilt and their point system, just makes a difference in what you plan to do with your points, the actual 'value' of each point and what you will get in return for using them.

My understanding is that you must also have been active in the hand at the time of showdown or pot 'win' in order to qualify. If you played in a pot but folded on the turn, even though you had some of your money in the eventual rake, you were not active in the final total. Just a rake 'contributor'. But that's true on any site I know of that awards any kind of points.

MTT rakes can award points because you have paid a buy-in rake, whether you ever play a hand or not.

On stars, if the rake reaches 40c and you folded preflop, you still get an FPP. 100% certain on that.

I play a lot on PS at the $0.05 / $0.10 NL tables and though not fast eventually the FFP's do add up. Selecting a table with a high percentage of post flop callers helps as they tend to have higher pots.
good luck,good profits and good fun

stars are meant to be introducing partial FPPs at some point in the next few months which might help micro players a little.

Correct, sort of. After some checking with Stars, if you contributed any money to a pot that qualfies for any FPP's, you do receive them. If you fold pre-flop before putting anything into the pot, then there are no
FPP's awarded.

Here's the e-mail I received from them today:
Hello xxxxx,
Thank you for your email.
If you have contributed any money to the pot and the pot's rake reaches
enough to award FPP's then you will receive the appropriate amount of
FPP's. It dosen't matter how much you put in the pot or when you have
folded. If you have contributed to that pot you will be rewarded with
FPP's.
If there is anything else we can help you with, please email us again at any time. Thank you for choosing PokerStars.
Regards,
Andrew
PokerStars Support Team

So I stand corrected on the folding issue, but only if you have put anything at all into the pot.

I really think that person worded that wrong because unless they JUST changed that it has always been that you just need to be sitting at the table to get FPPs. That's how people who 24 table and just nit it up rake in the FPPs.

Quote:

At 5c/10c you will get an FPP if the rake on a pot is 40c.

so which is it? sit at table and get dealt a hand and not contribute
OR contribute via blinds but fold to a raise preflop?

You are correct. They actually admitted giving an incorrect reply. Opened my e-mail this morning to this:

Hello xxxxx,

It appears that I have recently provided you with some incorrect
information. I would like to apologise for this as this was my
interpretations of our policies.

Briefly, you don't need to contribute money to the pot to receive an FPP,
you will still be eligible for FPP's if you are dealt into a hand and
decide to fold. As long as you are dealt into the hand and don't leave the
table before that hand finishes you will receive the FPP's equivalent to
that pot size.

More information on our Frequent Player Points system is best viewed at:
http://www.pokerstars.com/fpp/#earn

If there is anything else we can help you with, please email us again at
any time. Thank you for choosing PokerStars.

Regards,
Andrew
PokerStars Support Team

The above should answer your question. As long as you are dealt into the hand and do not leave the table before the end of the hand, you receive the points if the rake in the hand qualifies.

hu sags and ring games is probably a good idea