Double or Nothing Sng's Poker Stars

#1 2nd October 2008, 9:13 PM

PokerStars is offering a new Sng... I believe Cake has had them out for a while, but PokerStars just introduced them into their own line up. Basically 10 man Sng, 5 win nothing the other 5 double their buy-in (minus the rake). I have played in two of them cashed in one...my god the nittest low limit Sng I have ever played. Don't think I will be playing in many more.

#2 2nd October 2008, 9:28 PM

That actually sounds good. I think a patient player can do pretty well in tournies like this.. I want to try it out. I haven't signed up at pokerstars yet. What is the best bonus for stars.

#3 2nd October 2008, 9:32 PM

I am pretty sure the max bonus at Pokerstars is like 50$. There bonus program kinda sucks but I really don't mind as they may more than make up for it in the level of traffic they receive, and of course in their Fpp reward system.

#4 2nd October 2008, 10:35 PM

my record on cakes version of the sng is 9 cashes 1 miss. they are very easy on cake. i dont think it will be as easy on pokerstars because the players there seem to know what they are doing most of the time.

#5 2nd October 2008, 10:38 PM

Nice sng's.

At the 1,10$ im sure you can win back ur money by just folding every hand.

#6 3rd October 2008, 2:55 AM

have not tried these yet need to get some bankroll on PS. This however seems like a decent way to build some bankroll especially multitabling & playing TAG

#7 3rd October 2008, 2:31 PM

If this is true then i think i could make a lot of money because I place in the top 3 99% of the time it seems.

#8 3rd October 2008, 2:33 PM

I just checked it out and im about to register for one of them but im guessing play will be much tighter compared to an average sng.

#9 3rd October 2008, 3:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadafi

If this is true then i think i could make a lot of money because I place in the top 3 99% of the time it seems.

Then why on earth would you want to play these? you make more money playing the regular sit n go.

#10 3rd October 2008, 3:26 PM

Stars also has a great SNG ladder system for big live game tournies. Top 2 advance to next stage, 3rd repeats same stage, and 4 gets a shot at the previous stage. A few spots in the system 5th gets something too.

#11 3rd October 2008, 3:39 PM

i was not impressed with them either...everyone was playing tight...so if i have to invest over an hour in something...id rather play a regular sng for the greater payout potential...however, for some players that may have a low bankroll, it may be a good safe bankroll builder thanks to the 10 percent rake and the fact that 50 percent of the field gets paid.

cheers and gl

#12 3rd October 2008, 3:46 PM

These games are deadly dull - after 3 players are out, it is basically a 45 minute bubble waiting for 2 more to go.

I played one yesterday and cashed (got up to 5,200 chips, went back down to 1,900 at one stage - I should have just sat out!). They have a place as a bankroll builder, but they are zero fun.

#13 3rd October 2008, 3:55 PM

If your goal is to have fun and need action, do not play these. If your goal is to make money then every decent player at cardschat with a low / mid bankroll should be playing these.

They are a license to print money for good players. They are extremely easy to multi-table, as you are only waiting for premium hands and stealing spots.

I have not played the higher limit ones, as my BRM won't allow it, so I cannot comment on the play in those. But just from playing the $5 ones, I am already up $40 after playing 11 so far (10-1). And it has only taken me 1 hour and 15 minutes this morning.

#14 3rd October 2008, 4:01 PM

standard turbo donkngos are (a) just as easy if not easier to multitable because after 20 mins or so you're basically either shoving or folding everything and (b) take less time.

the only reason to play these is if you hate variance, as normal donkngos are obviously going to be more swingy. these might be worth a look-in if they were turbos, but with 10min levels it's basically going to be a case of "watch the idiots stack off in the first level then take a one-way ticket to nitsville for an hour", and that's about as much fun as laying in a pool of your own vomit.

#15 3rd October 2008, 4:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dufferdevon

Then why on earth would you want to play these? you make more money playing the regular sit n go.

Yeah thats not true at all.

#16 3rd October 2008, 4:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadafi

If this is true then i think i could make a lot of money because I place in the top 3 99% of the time it seems.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dufferdevon

Then why on earth would you want to play these? you make more money playing the regular sit n go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadafi

Yeah thats not true at all.

um yes it is lolz (but you don't place 99% of the time in regular sng's so the point is moot tbh).

#17 3rd October 2008, 4:13 PM

This sounds good to me but I can't seem to find them. Where are they listed ?? SNG's- tourneys ??

#18 3rd October 2008, 4:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus

um yes it is lolz (but you don't place 99% of the time in regular sng's so the point is moot tbh).

Well for a start 3rd place in a normal sng would not win me as much as coming 5th in a double or nothing sng and no i dont place 99% of the time but i do place at least 80% of time but i dont play sng's all that often because i can make more playing ring games. Not that it matters anyway.

#19 3rd October 2008, 4:23 PM

so let me guess you've played like 6 sng's ever? seeing as 80% itm is impossible over any sort of reasonable sample size.

umm and yes finishing 3rd wouldn't win you (quite) as much as double, but when we get itm in a regular sitngo we don't always finish third.

#20 3rd October 2008, 4:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus

so let me guess you've played like 6 sng's ever? seeing as 80% itm is impossible over any sort of reasonable sample size.

He's calling you a liar Kadafi - prove him wrong, post your pokersite ID's so we can look them up on Sharkscope and make him look an idiot.

#21 3rd October 2008, 4:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus

so let me guess you've played like 6 sng's ever? seeing as 80% itm is impossible over any sort of reasonable sample size.

umm and yes finishing 3rd wouldn't win you (quite) as much as double, but when we get itm in a regular sitngo we don't always finish third.

well its actually closer to twenty(like i said i dont play sngs) and i never claimed to be the messiah of sngs or anything. I just said i placed itm a lot of the time and 80% is accurate.

I play on a lot of sites. Kadafi006 is name for pokerstars.

#22 3rd October 2008, 4:40 PM

they made them turbos now (5 min blinds instead of 10)! thank god, they were painfully slow. i e-mailed PokerStars yesterday and said they should... reply:

Hello Tristian,

Thank you for your feedback – As a result of many players sharing this
same concern, you will see the turbo double or nothing tournaments in the
lobby now!

Good luck at the tables!

Best Regards,

Jeanne D.
Responsible Gaming Manager
PokerStars Poker Room Management Team

#23 3rd October 2008, 4:44 PM

#24 3rd October 2008, 5:24 PM

Hmmmmmm, Kadafi006 is not a registered name on sharkscope.......Did you spell it right?

#25 3rd October 2008, 5:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blabber

Hmmmmmm, Kadafi006 is not a registered name on sharkscope.......Did you spell it right?

Yeah its spelled right but i only started playing cash games on pokerstars recently so maybe it has to update or sumting. I dunno i never used sharkscope.

#26 3rd October 2008, 5:30 PM

Now that the blinds come around every five minutes, these might be worth playing. I haven't played on PS for awhile. Perhaps this is a reason to give them another chance.

#27 3rd October 2008, 7:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blabber

Hmmmmmm, Kadafi006 is not a registered name on sharkscope.......Did you spell it right?

Um, so what?

#28 3rd October 2008, 7:10 PM

Kadafi is saying that he cashes in 80% of his SNGs - that is an impressive record to say the least and was met with some skepticism.
He was asked to provide his screen name so we could verify this record on sharkscope, that records SNG performance. Kadafi006 is not listed on sharkscope.

#29 3rd October 2008, 7:41 PM

They have had these double your money on william hill for a while now, 10 seater and six, never played the 10 seater but the 6 are very good, and they dont last that long very easy to cash.

#30 3rd October 2008, 9:02 PM

Patience = Perseverance. Any patient player will cash the majority of the time in this style of play. I, personally, have never tried it out. I might have to.

#31 3rd October 2008, 9:37 PM

the problem is that all players instantly becomes many degrees more patient when playing these. at reasonable stakes it's not quite as easy as you might think, because everyone know to play much closer to "correct" strategy in these than in normal SnGs. but players still make tons of dumb mistakes, from what i've seen

i tried one $109 double up and cashed it, ship it i guess

#32 3rd October 2008, 11:50 PM

yeah ive played in a few
two 1 dollar
one 2 dollar
and one 5 dollar
and i have cashed wooooot
it was lots of fun~~

#33 4th October 2008, 5:10 AM

I have been playing these on Pokerroom for a few months now and they are very, very profitable. They run turbo ones with 3 minute blinds so all you need to do is win one hand, double up once and thn sit out, from there you will cash upto 90% of the time. So yeah I double up once close the table and start another one.

#34 4th October 2008, 5:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by combuboom

the problem is that all players instantly becomes many degrees more patient when playing these. at reasonable stakes it's not quite as easy as you might think, because everyone know to play much closer to "correct" strategy in these than in normal SnGs. but players still make tons of dumb mistakes, from what i've seen

i tried one $109 double up and cashed it, ship it i guess

You'd probably be better off like 20 tabling $20 ones imo since probably most of the players won't really have a clue how to play.

#35 4th October 2008, 10:40 AM

Yea I luv those so far I am 6 for 6 on the PLO.... cant sign up fast enough.. lol

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