Calculation pot odds

Hi guys.

A quick question here.

When working out pot odds before the turn, it is roughly you outs x 4 ? (plus 1 or 2 !!!)

Therefore, if the flop is A64 diamonds, and your pocket cards are Kd 10s, u have 9 outs x 4 = 36 + 2 so about a 40% chance of hitting. So if the pot was $100 you can call a bet below $40?

After the turn, if u did not hit your flush, u would have about a 25% chance.

The reason I ask is one of the other posts suggested that pre turn in the same scenario, u would have a 20% chance.

Thanks in advance for the help guys.

Ronaldadio

I just keep it simple at 36%.. multiply X4 then X2

I agree with Twizzy

I think the issue that you mention when someone said "20%" is that they aren't taking into account that you have 2 cards to see. They are figuring it as 1 card to come, not two.

It looks like you're trying to use the rule of 4 and 2.

On the turn, you take your outs and multiply it by four. In your example, it'd be 4*9= 36% So if the bet is less than 36% of the pot, you're getting the right odds to call.

Now on the river, you take your outs and multiply it by two. Again, in your example it'd be 2*9= 18% (assuming you missed your flush on the turn)

I've found this to be one of the most useful tools in my poker arsenal. It works great at Titan because there's always a running pot total up to your bet. I try to keep it simple and figure out the pot in increments of 10% until I get to my out percentage. It really helps because it more or less takes the emotion out of the bet. If the bet is under your odds call, if it's over fold. If it's right on the edge....well, there has to be some player judgement in poker

Unlikely that he has any. With four to a flush showing on the board, there aren't many cards that will give him action.

You can't use the odds of hitting on the turn OR river when you're paying only for the turn card. You're paying $40 for the privilege of seeing the turn; you must look at your chance of hitting your flush on that card, and that chance is somewhere around ~20%. So no, you can't really pay $40 in a $100 heads-up pot to see the turn if you judge it strictly by pot odds.