Bodog reinstates Tracking?

Don't know when it happened, but I noticed yesterday that my PT3 is working on Bodog again (they had disabled trackers some time ago)... so I will be back on the PLO tables there, after a long hiatus.

Glad they smartened up

What do you mean by they enabled trackers? Like they track your hand history? I've never heard that term in regards to poker before...

Check it out in detail ... you are in for some ' shock and awe ' ... ..

there are a number of programs online players use to track what and how you play your hands. There are even companies that will sell players Hand Histories of other players they have never played against before.

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Although some tracking programs, and buying hand histories, are against the site's EULA and could lead you to getting banned

are there any sites that ban hud's etc. altogether
where us fish can play in peace,
without having some half human/cyborg entity
playing the numbers.
'stats' for this, 'stats' for that.
its just 'plum loco'
but i suppose its just part of the online scenario.

well you can play at cake then..they don't do the HUD thing

The Dog banned HUDs over a month ago and lost tons of traffic, including me. They smartened up...

You can play in peace there, we won't bother you with your numbers

As far as I know trackers don't work at Carbon, that's the only one banning them now I think...

hey all is bodog stil open to the usa players???? I have an account there i will check it out... thanks all

by Carbon you clearly meant Cake.

No I meant Carbon Poker. Or Bastard Poker. It's confusing I forget...

Played there recently, yes they still still allow U.S. players.

Corbon Poker allows HUDs (at least this morning they still did) - HEM working there all the time.
To the OP:
Good thing they realized now (as predicted) - now I'm ready to reactivate my tiny BR and blow it all there.

Carbon and all Merge sites allow the use of HUDs.

Well I'll be... downloaded latest PT3 and tweaked a bit and dang it is now working on Carbon... txs for the comments guys....

i think tracking hand history to gain advantage of a player should be considered cheating. if you have to utilize such a tool, you must not be smart enough of a player to win without it.

Do you know what HEM,or PT3 does?I'll refrain myself from what i was going to say untill you answer.
Edit:I COULD do what HEM,PT3 does with pen and paper,but i'm not going to.

To be fair and honest, trackers are not really meant to track how others play, but rather how we who use trackers play, and against all comers how are identified by name.

The trackers store, sort and stuff into a database all the things that are public knowledge about the hands we play.

So don't take it like we who use them are doing anything more than increasing our memory capacity (to near perfect photographic levels) with the help of a computer program.

These trackers make no decisions for us. The help us remember so when we do make decisions, we are armed with a perfect memory as to how we may have played against these opponents in the past, and how they may have played against us. They help us understand the dynamics of the game, and the table, a little faster than we would over the course of tens of thousands of hands.

The 2 prime trackers are Holdem Manager (HEM) and PokerTracker3 (PT3). Most sites that take poker seriously allow their use.

For sure Zynga (Facebook) and the Zen sites do not allow their use, as both explicitly state their games are for entertainment purposes only.

I think you should think about what you just said, but before that, read through the countless threads here and elsewhere on what trackers do and who uses them. I think you need to wake up.

Excuse me, but I find my PT3 hugely entertaining, particularly when playing against people who are clueless about paying attention to their opponents... .

silly thread. OP is just behind the times.

Bodog never strictly banned HUDs. And PT3 has worked fine grabbing hands on bodog for years now, uninterrupted. OP was clearly slow in getting the proper updates.

Bon, u r clearly not aware of this thread by Bodog Becky and the resultant defections.... this current thread is in reference to that... should have posted link earlier. Sometime after Feb. this year my HUD stopped working at the Dog, and PT3 stopped tracking altogether:

Bodog Poker blocks scraping sites...saving the fish!

And I keep updated when prompted by PT. Is always getting better.

I'm quite aware. but i generally don't listen to becky as everything is in the fine oprint.

What they banned was PTR-like scrapers NOT PT3. Mine has worked fine all year, and I am also a PT3 tester, so I know that it was working all the time for anyone on teh proper version.

Don't confuse PT3, which is a personal statistics database, with pokertable ratings or sharkscope and the like which are result/hand scraping sites.

Also, I have spoken with supervisors at bodog CS on the phone (ones I trust to know their stuff) and they also confirm as of of April or so that PT3 and HEM are NOT banned.

Obviously something went wrong with your version of PT3 on your machine for reasons unknown. Mine never stopped working.

As usual, Becky was posting PR spam, and it got misinterpreted.

Okeley dokeley neighbour, let us just say that as of now the discussion is moot. Bodog supports personal trackers, as was not clear in previous thread, and so does Carbon. We can say that the Dog and Carbon both benefited from the discussion, which is not at all bad

(Oh Boy my smilies are working again!! )

Confirmed.
PTR is now not working. While software like HEM and PT3 are OK.
But also banned pokerscout.com was returned. Last was obviosly banned by mistake.

Yeah, Bodog never officially banned personal trackers/HUDs, but they did actively discourage them and released updates to break them.

HEM was developing their own Bodog grabber, and asked Bodog about why their updates were regularly breaking the grabber. Bodog basically said they were trying to defeat HUDs & trackers, and asked HEM to cease development of their internal hand grabber. HEM complied. So HEM users were forced to buy and use IdleMiner's Bodog grabber. Recently it has stopped working for many people, and PTR isn't in a hurry to fix it -- many suspect it's because they want people to buy HH's.

PT3 has reportedly kept their internal Bodog grabber working, and some who have both PT3 and HEM are now running PT3 strictly as a Bodog grabber while pointing HEM to PT3's Bodog HH folder. Probably not for those with marginal PC's but that's about the only reliable option right now. AFAIK there are no other working Bodog grabbers on the market aside from PT3 and Idleminer, and the latter is questionable at this point.

I had toyed with the idea of developing one myself, but I'm not really crazy about Bodog anyway and really don't have the time to develop and support it. Chasing Bodog's updates would be a PITA (just ask HEM).

Sadly. *Cue insults*