Bodog Poker blocks scraping sites...saving the fish!

If you carry this argument to its logical conclusion, you should ban all poker strategy books, all poker magazines which contain advice on improving your game and all sites such as Cardschat. These resources give those that use them an edge over those who can`t be bothered and should, by your logic, not be allowed.

A few differences here. You're not using (well probably not anyway) any of those rescources while actually playing. And, none of those rescources are giving you every single stat of every hand you've ever played against an opponent so that you can better exploit him.

The alledged "fact" that those programs do not give you access to any info you couldn't get yourself without them is total BS. Everyone knows this. Unless you are some kind of idiot-savant there is NO WAY you are tracking all the stats by yourself that these programs do (even on a single table, let alone multi-tabelling).

I would be totally in favor of there being a divide in the online poker world. Some site continue to allow HUDs for those that can't live/play without them, and some sites that enforce bans against them for those that prefer to play without them. As it is now, it's all in favor of those who want HUDs and those who dislike them are either forced to use one or play at a huge disadvantage to those who choose to use one. Let's level the playing field on at least a few sites for those who dislike HUDs.

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IF IT'S TIME TO DRAW THE LINE AND PICK A SIDE, I'M ON BIG RUDYS TEAM BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE KICKED SOME HUD USERS BUTTS !!!!!!!

TBH if all you can play is four tables HUD's are useless unless you are doing other things while playing. Paying attention to four tables ain't shet.

Still don't see this move attracting anymore players though. One way or the other. Think I will put some money back on before next NFL season. Maybe even for March madness.

But as far as playing poker I will stick with the one that lets me HUD and 16 table it if I wish. Even though they are SUCKING HARD at getting me my money(yes you FTP).

If bodog is going to prevent me from collecting hand histories via tracking software it needs to beef up the statistics it provides. It is currently nearly impossible (easily, at least) to determine as fundamental a piece of information as how many hands I play during a session. The software provides percentages of things such as flops seen and showdowns won without raw numbers. The way it restores lifetime stats the next session after I have reset them to zero is simply flabbergasting. I started playing at bodog this week after being forced out of PokerStars by the DOJ's activities. I'm not a pro but I like to track certain statistics. I'm glad to do it manually and play without a HUD or tracking software but bodog needs to step up its game. As it is, I would go back to Stars, where I easily kept stats in a spreadsheet for years without tracking software, in a heartbeat even if they prohibited HUDs and tracking software and bodog allowed both.

And the only ones who want to use it are the ones who are using this as a resource for income. I am no pro but I am also not a beginner, and if I had the funds to play like some of you do, I would do it fairly. If you were playing live all that technology would be out the window.

Show me a live player who plays 4-24 tables at the same time. You can not compare the 2 things.

I know lots of non-pro players that use PTR and other legal analytical tools. Bodog can ban them if it chooses but they currently do not and they are available to anyone. To say that only pros use them is just flat wrong.

Once again, someone with obviously no idea of the what/when/why/how of these tools making unfounded assertions as to their "fairness."