Anyone else think Full Tilt should change this?

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  #1
15th August 2008, 1:17 PM
cmberman87
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Hold Em
Anyone else think Full Tilt should change this?

I'm not sure if Full Tilt ever will, or if anyone agrees on this, but I think there should be a time limit when people register for a game and don't come back. Most of the games can be registered for in advanced, so a lot of the time I see about 200 PLUS players not even playing, this sucks for many reasons;

One, players might be sat at a table where they are the ONLY one playing, I've had this happen a lot. Most people like it, you can get 12k chips in like 10mins, but I don't. I come to play, win or lose.

Two, it slows down the whole process of the game, eventually they get widdled out by blinds, but still.

Three, I understand everyone should have their chance at the game, but if you're not there for it, you're not. I don't think anyone likes going heads up immediately either when you're NOT at final table haha.

I think there should be a 10min 'GET YOUR ASS TO YOUR COMP' wait, then somehow pull the players who are not there and aren't going to be.

I don't know, maybe I'm just ranting. Anyone else agree? Or think there's a reason 200plus players who are not there...need to be there?
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  #2
15th August 2008, 1:22 PM
chrisottawa
 
Poker at: pokerstars
I couldn't agree more. I hate when the game starts and all but me and one other person is playing and the other one keeps going all in all the time....i wait for the primo hand and mostly get knocked out by rags from them. There are sites that let you sit out something like 15 hands then you get the boot. i wish the big sites did the same.
  #3
15th August 2008, 1:24 PM
Jurn8
 
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Holdem
i agree especially in the freerolls you sometimes get half a table who just never play and take ages to be blinded out, they should set a hand limit of say inactive for 20 hands!
  #4
15th August 2008, 2:24 PM
Rounder_D
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: PLO
the site doesn't care they still make their rake no matter what
  #5
15th August 2008, 2:47 PM
cmberman87
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Hold Em
Oh yea, I've been hit with the one donk going all in every hand, I understand they make 'rank' but shit, they're freerolls! Ha, don't the creators spill dime in those? But yea, I can't assume they don't want 200 more 'players online' using their site, so.... grrrrr
  #6
15th August 2008, 2:55 PM
crazylady
 
Poker at: DoylesRoom
Game: holdem
Totally agree, boot the sitters! Even more maddening is the 1's that sit the 1st 30 or 40 mins,the join & donk their way into chip-lead. I have had that happen so many times, go all with top pair, they suck-out a str8 with 3 7 off.
  #7
15th August 2008, 3:17 PM
stevencool1
 
Online Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
re: Anyone else think Full Tilt should change this? poker

what happens to me is players will lose half to three fourths of their chips in the first hand and sit out the rest of the game.
how about the alll-iners every hand. then you get good cards and get beat with rags.
  #8
15th August 2008, 4:23 PM
Divebitch
 
Poker at: FT-PS-CBN-BD
Game: Horse/Omaha
Absolute is the only one I know of that will boot you after the 1st level of inactivity. However, once they did it to me, and I WAS there, but folded every hand, as I got nothing but crap cards. But once you play that one hand, you're good for the duration.

I've had it happen (OFTEN at Carbon, where you have 2 hours before the tourney to sign up), that is was me alone or me & one other guy. Even getting a good, fair player (no all-ins), it was a pain because 1) you cannot sit out a few hands, cuz your blinds will eb quickly stolen, or he'll steal blinds that YOU should be stealing , and 2) as the blinds to up, you're barely keeping even, while stacks at other tables are growing.

Honestly, it's not been a problem at FT. Never had more than 3 or 4 sitting out the whole game, usually just 1 or 2. Sometimes, I like to sit out the early donkfest, or am pretty tight about the hands I'll play until some of the donks are gone, or I can at least make note of who's betting what. But wouldn't be opposed to booting folk after 2 levels of inactivity, so 20 minutes.
  #9
15th August 2008, 4:27 PM
angelaus
 
Online Poker at: paradisepoke
Game: nl holdem
I don't that they will change that.. It's very boring when lots of the players are sitout but they dont care about it.
  #10
15th August 2008, 5:24 PM
fcumred
 
Poker at: bodog
Game: Holdem
FT isnt the only one.

Doyles room does a $300 tournie in the evening, and it can have 3000 registered.

One night I played right the way up to blinds of 150/300 before I had anyone to play against. I just raised and the computer automatically folded everyone.

I ended up winning something like $12 having hardly come up against any opposition..

Boring as hell, but a good way to build up a bankroll if you've got the patience..
  #11
15th August 2008, 6:13 PM
chrisottawa
 
Online Poker at: pokerstars
I ended up winning something like $12 having hardly come up against any opposition..

Boring as hell, but a good way to build up a bankroll if you've got the patience..[/quote]

Nice, but at pokerstars when there are 12000 people in the turny and only the top 99 get in to the next round it makes for a long process. Maybe i should just change sites
  #12
15th August 2008, 6:17 PM
MrMuckets
 
Poker at: FullTilt
This doesn't happen often on fulltilt. you say alot, that's not true. Unless you are talking strictly freerolls as it looks like most responses are from other FRW's.
  #13
15th August 2008, 6:59 PM
TrashmanAce
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Ya table ticks suck. Ticks sucks the blood from a animal and table ticks suck the fun out of the game. When I find myself at a table with one or two others I've made deals to spit the hand and not steal each others blinds. I've found many go for that. Either way it sucks when you have table ticks.
  #14
15th August 2008, 7:04 PM
emk4976
 
Poker at: ps and ftp
Game: allcardgames
re: Anyone else think Full Tilt should change this? poker

true i also see players sit out then come in play allin donk poker then suck out on a few peeps and go back to sitting out again .its very aggervating, but what can you do most site allow this to where some if ya sit out more then 15 hands they take you out . but yea it is very annoying when sitters are at the tables
  #15
15th August 2008, 7:17 PM
rockpoker
 
The absent players must be eliminated after the first round (the first level), do not leave me to play with comfort, your blinds decentralize me of game, it is inconvinient to play a heads up having in the table absent players.
Ftp should solve this.
Everything else of ftp this one very well.
  #16
15th August 2008, 8:03 PM
cmberman87
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Hold Em
I agree, after first level, not there, you get booted, speak of the devilish style of play, at a table right now.

Me and...who?

Oh yea, that ONE other person.

Great.
  #17
15th August 2008, 8:23 PM
jeff0120
 
Online Poker at: FTP
Game: Hold 'Em
I agree with KingTurd. When you're at a table with a bunch of sitters, you usually can switch off with any other active players at the table, and take turn taking down the blinds. Gives you more room to play your style later on the tournament.
  #18
15th August 2008, 8:27 PM
anita21
 
Poker at: full tilt
Game: holdem

I love to play at full tilt, great poker softver. Its works fine for me.
I wouldn’t change anything.
Full Tilt rules.
  #19
15th August 2008, 8:36 PM
chrisottawa
 
Online Poker at: pokerstars
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff0120
I agree with KingTurd. When you're at a table with a bunch of sitters, you usually can switch off with any other active players at the table, and take turn taking down the blinds. Gives you more room to play your style later on the tournament.

I have tried that a few times. Some people are cool with it but when you have to explain how and when they should fold when it'd my BB then it gets to be a bit much. It has worked well the few time we did work it out. we will see at the next one.

chris
  #20
15th August 2008, 11:14 PM
PokerVic
 
Poker at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem
I couldn't disagree more. I love when the game starts and all but me and one other person is playing and the other one keeps going all in all the time....i wait for the primo hand and mostly get doubled up by rags from them. There are sites that let you sit out something like 15 hands then you get the boot. I'm glad the big sites don't do the same.
  #21
16th August 2008, 5:49 AM
cmberman87
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Hold Em
re: Anyone else think Full Tilt should change this? poker

Well, if wanted heads up, I'd play a heads up SNG. I come for a tourney because it's a tourney. So...haha
  #22
16th August 2008, 2:37 PM
wachinpntdry
 
Poker at: full tilt
Game: all of em
free chips with no risk .....whats the problem ?
is it that you cant 10 times your chips in first 5 minutes......
or is it that you bust out before someone that isn't even there ?


anyone that dislikes players sitting out of a tourny doesn't understand tournament play

play in a REAL MONEY tournament ....and see how many sit-outs there are.....not too many........

because it's a DISATVANTAGE to sit out during a tourny....and every sit-out at your table INCREASES your advantage

(in freeroll donkfests I often sit out for the first 30 minutes or so just to let most of the bingo morons punch themselves out)
  #23
16th August 2008, 2:43 PM
quintass
 
Online Poker at: FT & Absolute Poker
Game: holdem
You are 100% correct, but, what upsets me even more is the LATE registrations allowed on FT & PokerStars. You could enter a tourney assuming you're facing a relativley small to medium size field (40-50 players). Then, 10 mins after the game starts you're now up against 100-120 players! Now that really sucks if time was a factor in your tourney choice.
  #24
16th August 2008, 2:51 PM
hojediade
 
Poker at: BoDog Poker
Game: NLTH & HORSE

I don't know if i agree with that, cause it happens to me to be late, sometimes even half an hour late to a tourney. The other neg side of this would be that you won't allowed people to leave their sit for a while, as they would be sit out too. I mostly meet sit out with big stacks. I know that Absolute push out the sitout after the first blind level if they don't sit in. Maybe you should try this room.
  #25
16th August 2008, 3:26 PM
cmberman87
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Hold Em
Quote:
Originally Posted by quintass
You are 100% correct, but, what upsets me even more is the LATE registrations allowed on FT & PokerStars. You could enter a tourney assuming you're facing a relativley small to medium size field (40-50 players). Then, 10 mins after the game starts you're now up against 100-120 players! Now that really sucks if time was a factor in your tourney choice.
Oh yea, that new feature on FT sucks, but in money games it builds up the prize pool, so that I DO like, just not in freerolls, I want as little ppl as possible haha
  #26
16th August 2008, 3:34 PM
cmberman87
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Hold Em
Quote:
Originally Posted by wachinpntdry
free chips with no risk .....whats the problem ?
is it that you cant 10 times your chips in first 5 minutes......
or is it that you bust out before someone that isn't even there ?


anyone that dislikes players sitting out of a tourny doesn't understand tournament play

play in a REAL MONEY tournament ....and see how many sit-outs there are.....not too many........

because it's a DISATVANTAGE to sit out during a tourny....and every sit-out at your table INCREASES your advantage

(in freeroll donkfests I often sit out for the first 30 minutes or so just to let most of the bingo morons punch themselves out)
Wow, sorry but I don't like free chips at ALL, it's a very bad way of getting them, I play poker because I like it and PLAYING against PLAYERs, if I wanted free chips I'd play against my dog haha.

I don't bust out, and if I do, that's that, it's just the principle of the 'Tournament' and the play it should entail, donks are donks and that's fine, agressive players are fine, but someone not there isn't. Imagine playing a live game -- 100 people buy in and you're sat at a table with no one there, who the hell are you playing? No one. But of course that's not ok in live play. Because you're getting 'free chips'. The tables would be well balanced.I've played live plenty and the only sitting I see is in rebuys.
People are NOT sitting, they are NOT there. There's a BIG difference.
  #27
16th August 2008, 4:36 PM
pimpinalovabkln
 
Online Poker at: full tilt
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by fcumred
FT isnt the only one.

Doyles room does a $300 tournie in the evening, and it can have 3000 registered.

One night I played right the way up to blinds of 150/300 before I had anyone to play against. I just raised and the computer automatically folded everyone.

I ended up winning something like $12 having hardly come up against any opposition..

Boring as hell, but a good way to build up a bankroll if you've got the patience..

yeh lol same thing happened to me in the quickdraw tournament that happens every night at 10 pm....
  #28
16th August 2008, 5:25 PM
Lolita
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Hold'm
re: Anyone else think Full Tilt should change this? poker

So true, although I sometimes am one of those people. For the Belgium Freeroll for example I always register, but sometimes I get called up by a friend to have some fun and I forget to unregister.. I know it's a drag.
You say it takes 15 minutes to gain 12K with people sitting out, but in reality it takes up a lot more time (or so it seems).
I hate it as well.

A 15-20 minutes "Get your ass here" would be perfect I think.
  #29
16th August 2008, 5:27 PM
Lolita
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Hold'm
What's going to happen with their chips if you just remove them?
  #30
17th August 2008, 5:31 AM
cmberman87
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Hold Em
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lolita
What's going to happen with their chips if you just remove them?
Uh lol....first place finish doesn't finish with as much?
  #31
17th August 2008, 5:54 AM
Pothole
 
Online Poker at: Absolute Poker FT Titan
Game: RAZZ
The problem with the situation under discussion, is that the poker sites don't give a crap whether you show up or not for a freeroll, the only sites I know that dump sitters at the 1st blind increase are Absolute and Ultimatebet, all poker sites could adopt this method but they don't, because they don't give a hoot. They hooked 3000 ppl to play a $100 freeroll and pay gawd know how many places a few cents. Why do they give cents as a prize when you can have a balance of eg. $1000.99c, you cannot withdraw the 99c so you'll take your $1000 and leave the 99c behind cause it's too low to buy in at most sites. OK so PS offers 10c tournies, gl all.
  #32
17th August 2008, 6:30 AM
cmberman87
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Hold Em
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pothole
The problem with the situation under discussion, is that the poker sites don't give a crap whether you show up or not for a freeroll, the only sites I know that dump sitters at the 1st blind increase are Absolute and Ultimatebet, all poker sites could adopt this method but they don't, because they don't give a hoot. They hooked 3000 ppl to play a $100 freeroll and pay gawd know how many places a few cents. Why do they give cents as a prize when you can have a balance of eg. $1000.99c, you cannot withdraw the 99c so you'll take your $1000 and leave the 99c behind cause it's too low to buy in at most sites. OK so PokerStars offers 10c tournies, gl all.
I actually put my change into those .10 games on FT. It's the only thing you can do with chump change. But yea, hopefully they'll give a hoot

SIGN MY PETITION?

lol
  #33
17th August 2008, 5:25 PM
Lolita
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Hold'm
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmberman87
Uh lol....first place finish doesn't finish with as much?
That ain't right, is it. The first 10-15 minutes you get to steal as much as possible, but then the whole amount that's left disappears. That way you'll create a whole askew game don't you think?
  #34
17th August 2008, 5:37 PM
janef13
 
Poker at: fulltilt
Game: horse
I agree , this is big problem with ft. I wish they would require one play a certain percentage of hands.

jane
  #35
17th August 2008, 5:57 PM
mirmidwnas
 
Online Poker at: Carbon
Game: holdem
re: Anyone else think Full Tilt should change this? poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmberman87
I'm not sure if Full Tilt ever will, or if anyone agrees on this, but I think there should be a time limit when people register for a game and don't come back. Most of the games can be registered for in advanced, so a lot of the time I see about 200 PLUS players not even playing, this sucks for many reasons;

One, players might be sat at a table where they are the ONLY one playing, I've had this happen a lot. Most people like it, you can get 12k chips in like 10mins, but I don't. I come to play, win or lose.

Two, it slows down the whole process of the game, eventually they get widdled out by blinds, but still.

Three, I understand everyone should have their chance at the game, but if you're not there for it, you're not. I don't think anyone likes going heads up immediately either when you're NOT at final table haha.

I think there should be a 10min 'GET YOUR ASS TO YOUR COMP' wait, then somehow pull the players who are not there and aren't going to be.

I don't know, maybe I'm just ranting. Anyone else agree? Or think there's a reason 200plus players who are not there...need to be there?
I don't think that it will ever change because every poker room,that respects it's potential customers(us),is obliged to give extra time to someone that just might be late and sooner or later might become connected

Another reason that i don't want that to change is that if it happens that you may sit in a table where everyone's missing(It occured to me on different occasions ) then there's the unique possibility that you pile up their stacks by just raising....So long live the "not connected" sign and all the ones that miss the tourneys
 



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