http://www.cardschat.com en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:16:15 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.cardschat.com/images_fb/misc/rss.jpg http://www.cardschat.com http://www.cardschat.com/f57/good-br-2-table-sngs-165127/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:59:57 GMT for one table SNG a good BR is about 20+ buy ins right?
what about 2 and more table SNG's? is it around 50? ]]> Learning Poker bigboi26 http://www.cardschat.com/f57/good-br-2-table-sngs-165127/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/ok-here-my-problem-165123/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:26:08 GMT 78 suited in co raise 4x to $4.00 bb raises to 20 i know i should fold but i call 50% of the time and some how i keep doing it i dont know if its because the 24 $ does not mean enough i know im way behind this leak is keeping me from being proffitable maybe writing this will help 78 suited in co raise 4x to $4.00 bb raises to 20 i know i should fold but i call 50% of the time and some how i keep doing it i dont know if its because the 24 $ does not mean enough i know im way behind this leak is keeping me from being proffitable

maybe writing this will help ]]> Learning Poker dan http://www.cardschat.com/f57/ok-here-my-problem-165123/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/red-light-district-165118/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:13:38 GMT Okay here's a poker tip i read in a daily newspaper a few weeks back, which i will post here. I think its a very good tip for new players.

For long-term profit in your low limit Texas Hold'em games. obey the board signals. Go when you get a green light, slow down when it turns orange, and for gods sake, stop when its showing red.

Whats is an example of a red light situation? You've raised from the button with a medium pair, Nine-Nine, and got three callers. The flop comes down Ace-Jack-Six. With two big over cards and no draw this is a red light area for you. Check-fold to any raises!

lets look at another example. You've made a continuation-probe bet with Ace-king of hearts into a dangerously coordinated Nine-Eight-seven of spades flop and face a big re-raise and a caller. Does it get any clearer? Stop betting! Run for your life!

Decisions get more difficult when you "feel" like you've got a lot of momentum--such as when you;ve got a big pocket pair or two pair. If the coordinated board and the betting are flashing red however, don't accelerate in the hope of making it through this one time. You will be penalized and you could end up bleeding all your chips away in a monster pot pile up as your little two pair is sideswiped by a mega straight or flush. ]]> Learning Poker vagas35 http://www.cardschat.com/f57/red-light-district-165118/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/turbos-165117/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:04:16 GMT I was just wondering if anyone could help me with these. It appears that my tight play just doesnt seem to work for these hmmmm I wonder why lol.... So if I pretty much follow the playing hands and positions that you will fin on pg 264 of Phil Gordon's Little Green Book... What should I expand my [playing hands too and from what position ??... Or is this question kind of a loaded question and too hard to answer without more info ?? ]]> Learning Poker CUJO3113 http://www.cardschat.com/f57/turbos-165117/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/knowing-your-skills-165110/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:36:05 GMT I'm still pretty new to poker and up until i read a couple of books and after about a week on CC, I realised I'm not nearly as good a player as I thought I was. I found out that I've got so much to learn and my game needs alot of work...

When do you know your not just another fish? I'd also appreciate any advice on becoming a better player... anything I should read or watch that WILL help me... ]]> Learning Poker percy312 http://www.cardschat.com/f57/knowing-your-skills-165110/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/stupid-question-165088/ Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:15:04 GMT I have a stupid question Im almost scared to ask it as I have been playing poker for a couple of years now and Im not too sure what ML means :s:... So laugh it up if you want lol just leave the answer as well haha I have a stupid question Im almost scared to ask it as I have been playing poker for a couple of years now and Im not too sure what ML means :s:... So laugh it up if you want lol just leave the answer as well haha ]]> Learning Poker CUJO3113 http://www.cardschat.com/f57/stupid-question-165088/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/holden-manager-165072/ Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:36:22 GMT Ok did a search and could not find a definitive answer? Bought holden manager recently and haven't really used it (mainly because I've been playing 6max SNG)

Is there a function wherei can export my hand analysis , stats, where I'm going wrong, to this site for your analysis ?? ]]> Learning Poker Gamble1996 http://www.cardschat.com/f57/holden-manager-165072/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/recommended-book-learning-maths-165059/ Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:07:46 GMT Not great at maths ! But is there a book that explains it clean and clearly ? Not great at maths ! But is there a book that explains it clean and clearly ? ]]> Learning Poker Gamble1996 http://www.cardschat.com/f57/recommended-book-learning-maths-165059/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/nl-cash-game-strategy-help-165019/ Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:28:19 GMT I just recently made the jump to NL Cash Games. I started with .5/.10. I seem to be getting the hang of it. I turned $10 to $127.63. The scenario is this, I see a lot of players in these games deep stacked. They are sitting with $30, $40 ,or even $50+ and at multiple tables. As for me I usually buy... I just recently made the jump to NL Cash Games. I started with .5/.10. I seem to be getting the hang of it. I turned $10 to $127.63. The scenario is this, I see a lot of players in these games deep stacked. They are sitting with $30, $40 ,or even $50+ and at multiple tables. As for me I usually buy in for $6 and as soon as I double up I leave the table and buy in at a new one. Whenever I try to get deep stacked I usually end up loosing my money. A few times I've gotten up to $24 or so and cashed out but mostly I just end up loosing it all. So my questions are, is it better to stay at the table and build up a deep stack or leave early? And if it's better to stay why can't I manage to keep a deep stack without loosing it all? ]]> Learning Poker Burn_Card http://www.cardschat.com/f57/nl-cash-game-strategy-help-165019/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/plo-mtt-beginners-164993/ Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:50:52 GMT Morning all,
I was on another site this morning and ran across this blog by Jack Welch on PL Omaha and thought it was worth reposting here. I don't play Omaha very often because I tend to get in deep and out really quick.. Lol. Jacks post points out some of my fundamental flaws in the way I've been approaching PL Omaha. I hope you find it as informative as I did..Doc
PLO MTTs For Beginners
Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - I have been playing - seriously - Omaha for the last month or so. Oddly enough, ever since I purchased Hold'em Manager. But that's another story. I played mostly PLO cash games and not very successfully.
Then I discovered PLO and O/8 MTTs, which seem to play to my strengths. As all you ladies know, my strengths are patience and discipline. I am virtually tilt less - when sober - and I can play position. Lord knows... Anyway, I have probably Final Tabled as many MTTs in the last month as I have Final Tabled in four years of NLH. I just got knocked out by a three-outer, so I don't even think I am running so freakin' red hot. I just think I have found my venue, so to speak. I am old... it's not a moment too soon.
Below is a bunch of savvy knowledge I purloined from the Internet, which, as you all know, was invented by Al Gore. But enough about him... Please note, I am talking to beginners playing PLO at a low limit in an MTT. You don't play PLO like this in a cash game.
In Hold'em, there are 169 distinct hands. In Omaha, there are 16,432 different possible unique starting hands you can be dealt.
When you are dealt four cards, you are really looking at six distinct hands. Ideally, all of your four cards work together. Success in Pot Limit Omaha depends largely on the starting hands you choose to play.
If anything, the edge a good player has over a bad player is higher in PLO than in NLH, which is excellent news if you're the one with the edge. The edge in a PLO MTT is often simply the cards with which you entered the pot. And as long as the structure of the tournament is good enough, you will have plenty of opportunities to exploit your opposition.
The top 30 Omaha starting hands are as follows:
1. A-A-K-K 11. K-Q-J-T 21. Q-Q-A-K 2. A-A-J-T 12. K-K-T-T 22. Q-Q-A-J 3. A-A-Q-Q 13. K-K-A-Q 23. Q-Q-A-T 4. A-A-J-J 14. K-K-A-J 24. Q-Q-K-J 5. A-A-T-T 15. K-K-A-T 25. Q-Q-K-T 6. A-A-9-9 16. K-K-Q-J 26. Q-Q-J-T 7. A-A-x-x 17. K-K-Q-T 27. Q-Q-J-9 8. J-T-9-8 18. K-K-J-T 28. Q-Q-9-9 9. K-K-Q-Q 19. Q-Q-J-J 29. J-J-T-T 10. K-K-J-J 20. Q-Q-T-T 30. J-J-T-9
Note: All hands in the top 30 must be double-suited.
The best Omaha starting hand is AA-KK double-suited. The Odds of actually being dealt that hand are 50,000-1 against. Even such a powerful hand is just a 3-2 favorite to win against 8765 double-suited.
In addition to the top 30, you will to play wraps, hands like 8-9-10-J, which can result in nice straights. Ideally, you will have 2 cards of the same suit, as this is the only way you can possibly hit a flush.
In Omaha, players rarely have a strong edge over their opponents. Rarely will you find yourself with over 60% equity HU. Each additional player reduces your equity immensely.
The lesson here? Play good hands and nothing else until... Well, you'll know when.
Omaha is considered to be a "nut game". This means your chances for straights and flushes are more important than high cards.
Minimize losses. When you lose, lose the minimum amount, and when you win, win the maximum. In MTTs, especially early, I try to get involved risking the least chips possible before deciding if I plan to move forward post-flop. Check for rocks before you dive in.
Let your opponents play trash. Leave weak and marginal hands out of your game.
Watch what hands your opponents show down. And there will plenty of showdowns to inspect. Look for the NLH players who don't yet know - or care - about the 6 possible hands. You don't have to be Stephen Hawking to comprehend you have more of a chance to win with six hands than one or two. A-A-rag-rag rainbow is hardly better than fertilizer. A-A-A-rag is also plant food. Lay it down and wait for an actual Omaha hand.
If an opponent pushes pre-flop, especially out of position, he will typically have A-A. Especially in a low limit MTT. How does your hand play against top pair??
It is difficult to get your opponents to fold, so bluffing is ill advised, especially for those new to Omaha. And don't get worried about being bluffed.
Look for reasons not to complete your small blind. Position is even more important in PLO than NLH, so avoid entering the pot OOP. Even if there are only two players yet to act, that is still a dozen potential hands to defeat.
Essentially, PLO is a post-flop game. With four cards, no hand going to be a huge favorite over any other hand pre-flop, but the pot-limit nature of the game usually prevents all of the money going in before the flop. PLO focuses upon making solid post-flop decisions; this is where your edge lies.
The ultimate overpair is, of course, A-A. A-A in PLO can be more trouble than they are worth; as a new player, you will undoubtedly go broke with them more times than you care to imagine. Try to get in the mindset of only playing your big pairs in PLO for set value, and learn to ditch them immediately if you face any sort of resistance post-flop. Doing so will immediately improve your game 100%.
You're given four cards, might as well use them all. Sets are so vulnerable you're not a guaranteed winner, even if you do hit your hand. Boats, flushes, straights...that's where the glory lies.
PLO is all about connecting hard with the flop. PLO is a game of the nuts. Straights, flushes, sets, full houses - they're all commonplace, so don't be too surprised to see your Queen-high flush or your bottom straight drawing dead when the cards are turned over. With this in mind, only chase draws if you are confident you are drawing to the best hand. You don't want to pay to hit a card that may lose you a big pot.
For the same reason, small pocket pairs should only be played as part of a strong combo hand with both straight and flush potential. These lower pairs are unlikely to make top set when they do connect with the flop. Small sets can be some of the most costly hands in PLO, as the danger of someone having a higher set is far higher than in NLH.
If you see the flop with a small pair, proceed with caution. As a general rule, don't play pairs lower than nines or tens for set value.
Position is more important in PLO as bets, calls, checks and raises give away much more reliable information. There are few hands that can afford to give free cards. With four cards in each of your opponents' hands, the chances of being outdrawn are high, meaning only the strongest hands or the safest of boards are suitable for slow-playing. The information you receive from betting decisions made by the players who act before you is much more reliable than in NLH.
Patience is not just about card selection. It's easier to come off a shortstack deep in a tournament in PLO and still win the tournament than in NLH. A disciplined shortstack strategy is important and overlooked by many who become too willing to gamble in bad spots when short.
If there are three to a suit on board, you can almost always assume someone has the flush in Omaha, and a paired board yields a very high probability of someone holding a tight (full house), whereas that would only be a minor concern in most Hold'em hands.
Tight-passive players are less likely to be steamrolled in Omaha than in Hold'em. Reduced opportunity for bluffing reduces how effectively you can bully a passive player.
Respect displays of strength. Players making large bets in Omaha are far less likely to be bluffing than the same caliber of players in NLH.
Do not get "married" to an eight-out straight draw. In Omaha, it is possible to flop 13-out, 17-out and 20-out straight draws. It is best to wait until you hold one of these draws before you heavily involve yourself in the pot.
Do not overplay unsuited aces: when all you hold are a pair of aces and two unsuited, unconnected rags, there is little you can flop to improve your hand. If you do not flop your set, you're not going to hold up often in a multi-way pot.
The potential to have upward of 20 outs in Omaha allows for drawing hands to be statistically ahead of made hands.
Common Mistakes in Pot-Limit Omaha

1. Overplaying "Hold'em strength" hands.
2. Calling with weak holdings and low-outs draws when facing a bet.
3. Playing too many starting hands.
4. Not raising pre-flop with premium hands.
5. Giving free cards or under-betting the pot without the nuts.
What hands to play pre-flop?
1. All top 30 hands with at least one suit and most of the time when offsuit.
2. All suited A-K-x-x with at least one x-card, 10 or higher.
3. All double-suited four in a row of hands, five or higher.
4. All double-suited connected hands, five or higher, with a maximum of one gap between the top two and the two low cards or between the low card and the three high cards. An example is K-Q-T-9 double-suited and J-9-8-6 double-suited.
5. All K-K-x-x double-suited.
As with any poker advice, these are just guidelines to give you a place to start from. The hands you raise and limp with will change depending on your table, your image, your skill and the skill of your opponents.

A hand should not be considered made until the river. The nuts on the flop means very little after the final two streets fall. It is seldom wrong to bet out with top set in a short-handed pot, even though the board looks scary. Remember, anytime you flop a set, you have about a 34% chance of improving to a full house on the turn and river combined.

Cliff Notes. If you start playing PLO now, you will be ahead of the game. And the crowd. It's that simple. ]]> Learning Poker DocMicro http://www.cardschat.com/f57/plo-mtt-beginners-164993/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/how-know-when-your-position-164932/ Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:29:28 GMT Yes I know !!! Is there a question here?? What is the simplest way to teach someone there in position pre-flop , post flop etc ( not talking about position at the table) who is first to bet or call after the flop etc Yes I know !!! Is there a question here?? What is the simplest way to teach someone there in position pre-flop , post flop etc ( not talking about position at the table) who is first to bet or call after the flop etc ]]> Learning Poker Gamble1996 http://www.cardschat.com/f57/how-know-when-your-position-164932/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/please-give-advice-how-control-my-164902/ Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:28:05 GMT Hello. I want to thanks all cardschat for giving helpful advices. But this time, I need help with how to control something physically. Although this is my personal problem, I cannot manage to help it. When I play in casinos or live home games, even if I face bad beats, I just keep my cool in... Hello. I want to thanks all cardschat for giving helpful advices. But this time, I need help with how to control something physically. Although this is my personal problem, I cannot manage to help it. When I play in casinos or live home games, even if I face bad beats, I just keep my cool in casinos and if I'm playing with my friends, i keep my cool.

But when I'm online and face a really horrible beat by a river where I was over 90% favorite, I tend to pound my table with my fist very hard from the very millisecond after the suckout card pops up on the river. It seems like I have to pound my fist first in order to control myself and play optimally. It seems like I have to pound something in order to release the anger and get rid of tilt. It's like, pounding is a mandatory before reading and following StormRaven's tilt advices.

My only problem when I play online poker is pounding the table since it's part of my reflexes. Any advices for fixing this? I am asking for this because I crippled my table and have to buy a new one. I'll find a good table from craigslist to buy for a cheap price that's immune to my fist pounding. I've been pounding my table since the day I started online poker. ]]> Learning Poker pokerlovesme http://www.cardschat.com/f57/please-give-advice-how-control-my-164902/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/sample-size-164889/ Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:46:02 GMT What do you consider an adequate sample size, in # of hands, to determine if you are a winning player or not? What do you consider an adequate sample size, in # of hands, to determine if you are a winning player or not? ]]> Learning Poker chattin35 http://www.cardschat.com/f57/sample-size-164889/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/how-do-cash-games-differ-mtt-164886/ Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:40:36 GMT i was told its a different poker game completely ?? how so?? i was told its a different poker game completely ?? how so?? ]]> Learning Poker Gamble1996 http://www.cardschat.com/f57/how-do-cash-games-differ-mtt-164886/ http://www.cardschat.com/f57/bankroll-management-164865/ Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:02:44 GMT Is there a recommended equation for bankroll management in terms of the size of the game you should be playing in? Meaning... if your bankroll is X you should only play in limits of Q and Y. Or tournaments even? Thanks for your input. Is there a recommended equation for bankroll management in terms of the size of the game you should be playing in? Meaning... if your bankroll is X you should only play in limits of Q and Y. Or tournaments even?

Thanks for your input. ]]> Learning Poker AR Dave 2008 http://www.cardschat.com/f57/bankroll-management-164865/